Movie Letdown

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Postby pandora315 » Saturday 12 June 2004 8:24:50am

Was anyone else really upset about the movie and the things that were left out? I thought that as a movie it was awsome but as a part of the "Harry Potter Series" it was terrible. I mean, things that you need to know for the next couple books never even come through. For example, fighting the grindylows in GoF is essential to the plot, Harry is supposed to learn about them from Lupin, but they never even show Lupin teaching- Which is another problem since in OotP Harry takes his teaching style from Lupin. I'm assuming that making the Dementors fly all the time was easier to make seem real with computer animation, so I won't comment on that. But one thing that really p***d me off was that they gave away Pettigrew so early. I mean, that made no sense. If Potter had spotted Pettigrew on the map, as in the movie #1 He never would have told Lupin, we've seen in the books how he doesn't even tell DD things that that, he certainly wouldn't have come out and said "oh by the way I've been seeing dead people on the map" and #2 to think that he wouldn't have told Ron and Hermione about it and then pursued him relentlessly until one of them worked out that pettigrew was the rat is rediculous. In the book the suspence of not knowing about Pettigrew is what carries the book. Also the firebolt scene, that SO out of place. Everything that happened with Harry's broom is mentioned like a half hour before- the broom scene should have played out there, instead after the movie when you're not even thinking about it anymore Harry suddenly recieves a firebolt. I just hope the next movie is better
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Postby Won Wheezy » Saturday 12 June 2004 10:06:08am

As I posted in another thread, I actually liked the movie a lot, which surprised myself. I think this is due to the fact that I didn't have too high expectations after reading some reviews. Of course there is lots of stuff left out or changed and if they had made it only half an hour longer they could have fit most important parts in. What I was missing was for example, Lupin telling Harry about the Marauder's map and who actually invented it! Who are moony, Wormtail, Padfoot & Prongs? It's also never mentioned why his Patronus appears as a stag.
What I do like is all the Buckbeak scenes, they have done very well on them. And you're right, Lupin's teaching comes a bit short too. But, as I said, if you don't expect too much it's a pretty good film. :grin:
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Postby harrylover » Tuesday 15 June 2004 5:09:52pm

I thought the same...telling harry about the marauders would have taken them 2 minutes...
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Postby Mint » Tuesday 15 June 2004 8:47:20pm

ah here - I was reading over the interview with Alfanso and here is a snippet which explains stuff.

Audience Member: I noticed, um, there was lots of foreshadowing in the third book that kind of leads to the fourth book and explains it a little better and I noticed that it was kind of left out. Particularly at the end of the third movie and I was curious if that was deliberate, or like how the fourth movie will be, especially because there's going to be a new director.

AC: Well, yeah, what happened is that you have to discriminate a lot when you are doing an adaptation. And we decided to just adapt everything that was relevant to the theme of a kid growing into a teenager. And pretty much we had to leave everything else, whatever didn't stick to that theme, we had to let it go. And that was one of those things. And yes, I know, it's setting up for the fourth one, but in the fourth one they are taking elements of the third to do the set up for the fourth.
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Postby harrylover » Tuesday 15 June 2004 8:59:45pm

But i think it´s important for harry growing to now more about his father...they shouldn´t have left it...
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Postby Groo » Wednesday 16 June 2004 11:34:58am

as i have said in another thread, i felt extremely p***d off about the modifications in the third movie. i went high of expectations in the theatre and felt letdown in the end

i am waiting somewhile after the fourth movie is released and if i find out that it is similarly manipulated i dont think i'll watch it
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Postby ADreamAbove » Wednesday 16 June 2004 4:25:40pm

I was quite disappointed about the Quittich cup being omitted; that's a huge deal in the Hogwarts universe!
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Postby Alice I » Wednesday 16 June 2004 11:37:32pm

I posted my review under Athena's thread but I didn't even mention some of the things that Pandora did.
I whole heartedly agree with Pandora that the movie was a huge bust!
The director was dreadful and I will never bother to see any of his other films.

What floors me is that JKR didn't pitch a fit when she saw it!
He compleatly destroyed her book!

And that interview thing where the director said that it was an adaptation! BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:
Adaapttation my A**! :evil:
This was the most liked; No Most LOVED books of the series and he completely destroyed it!

I was extreamly disapointed. I am not even looking forward to GOF because it will probably be even worse.

Give me the written word because Hollywood sucks!
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Postby Cougie » Thursday 17 June 2004 12:47:50am

My biggest disappointment was the design of the Firebolt. Not that we had a very good look at it but I could tell.
Looked like an ordinary broom, though I couldn't make out the handle end of the broom where the name was supposed to be printed.

I might have a word with the concept artist. Those are the type of people who never get the criticism they deserve unlike the director.

Anyone know if there's a pic on the web somewhere?
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Postby pandora315 » Thursday 17 June 2004 8:27:04am

let me get this straight. They're going to finish putting some of the details from PoA that couldn't fit into the PoA movie, into the 4th movie which, as we probably all know is like 4 times the size of book 3 anyway. Ok, that makes total sense. :x
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Postby harrylover » Thursday 17 June 2004 12:36:22pm

yeah, and they are going to put the things which don´t fit in the fourth film in the fifth film...and book five is even thicker as book four...yeah that makes total sense... :D
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Postby pallas artemis » Thursday 17 June 2004 9:03:46pm

I'm assuming that making the Dementors fly all the time was easier to make seem real with computer animation, so I won't comment on that.


I don't think that it had anything to do with CA. I think that they made the demetors fly because like it or not the demetors are wraiths. they are described to look exactly like the ring wriaths from LotR and if they hadn't made the demetors fly people would have been sitting in the theatre thinking . . . hey they ripped of LotR! :lol:

Which really would have been just about right but this way they don't have that problem from nonreaders. :lol:
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Postby TDM » Sunday 20 June 2004 3:52:04am

well, yes, pretty much the dementors are wraiths. that's prolly why they did the freezing thing, too, which i kinda liked, actually. you know, the fact that the dementors could fly didn't cause a problem for me. in fact, the dementors were about the only thing in the movie not messed up that bad. what annoyed me was that he didn't get the firebolt for christmas, Cedric nor Cho were mentioned, messing up the ability for the cup to happen. also, pettegrew was seen too early. shouldn't have happened like that. they combined both Hogsmeade visits into one, and therefore we had to watch Draco get hit with snow instead of sludge. sigh, but he could've at least spotted Harry so they could've done away with him trying to find pettergrew on the map. speaking of that dirty rat, his adult form looked really stupid. i disliked it a lot. ugh...horrible ugly man. hmm...what else? actually, i didn't know Fred and George knew Harry had his invisiblity cloak. i thought only the three kids, and Dumbledore knew. anyway, not really complaining on that one, as it was kinda funny. however, on a smaller note, when Hermione hit Malfoy, the sound of it wasn't really a thwak...it was more of a skloosh. i know, i'm getting picky now, but i was just wondering if anyone else noticed these. hmm...i think the new Dumbledore (his name escapes me) did a good job on this one. very good indeed. also, when Buckbeak attacked Malfoy, i have to say was expecting Buckbeak to almost maul Malfoy, bringing him an inch from death. hmm...the boggart scene was cool, along with the anti-dementor scene. in fact, once again, the dementors rocked. i loved them. very well done. eh...i'll complain more in a different thread.
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Postby pandora315 » Sunday 20 June 2004 4:51:30am

Aha! I knew I'd remember the other prolem with the movie that I had. Its the boggart scene. Did anyone notice that harry gets in front of the boogart and it turns into a dementor and then Lupin jumps in front and it turns into a full moon, but later on (as per the book) harry and Lupin have the conversation about why Lupin didn't let Harry fight the dementora nd Lupin explains that he thought the boggart would turn into Lord Voldemort? Is it just me or does that not make sense? I mean, we already saw the boggart turn into a dementor before Lupin even stopped it, so everyone would already know Harry's fear is a dementor not Lord V. And as for the Dementors flying it just meant that they couldn't do the scene where Draco and his goons try to fool Harry into thinking they're dementors during a Qd match. But we hardly see any matches anyway so maybe thats why they didn't show it. I can't talk about it anymore, it just makes me more upset.
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Postby TomFeltonLover939 » Friday 2 July 2004 10:50:30pm

anyone notice we've never seen peeves?
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