Could this happen

[Yoshi420]

I am not sure if I am even correct in what I am saying so if I am not just tell me so my mind will stop racing with crazy ideas. With that said here is what I thought of when I was reading through the Sorcerers Stone again the other day.

When Harry Neville and the gang get in trouble and get detention they are punished by going into the forbidden forest with Hagrid. At the scene where Voldemort is drinking the unicorn blood and notices Harry standing there just feet away from him he gets up and begins to approach him. If it was not for that centaur saving him he most likely would have been killed right there.

I remember the other centaurs talking about the stars and planets and being mad at the centaur that saved Harry's life. Saying that he should not have interfered with the natural cause of events.

For anyone that does not know the centaurs are fortune tellers. They can foresee what happens and were mad and the centaur for saving Harry's life. Does this mean that there is a chance that Harry might grow up to be the most evil powerful wizard that ever lived? Could something drive him over the edge? Did the Centaurs foresee this happening and that is why they where mad at the one that saved him from Voldemorts clutches.

[han lin]

ahh, i see where you are coming from.that is a tricky one. maybie they foretold harrys death and that centaur changed it
i can't see harry becoming an evil wizard.

*btw doesnt this thread belong in theorys?*

[Sacred Guardian]

yeah it does belong there

but anyway, i don't think that they were mad b/c he would have been a dark wizard, but just because he changed the natural course of events, which in the other centaur's opinion, he should not have done

[Holly Golightly]

I understood it as that the other Cenraurs were angry because he had involved himself with human business, not specifically saving Harry, jsut anything to do with humans...

Kinda like they only read the signs in the heavens, and observe things that happen, but do not directly get involved...

Make sense???

[Mistress Siana]

I really don't think it's likely...also, there is a logical mistake in it:
If that centaur interfered with the way of nature by saving Harry's life, it means that is was the natural way for Harry to die in the forest. So there couldn't have been a future that showed Harry as the most evil wizard ever.

But I have to say I like the idea...the mere possibility of an outcome like this...just imagine anybody told Harry something like "remember a few years ago when you didn't want to be sorted in Slytherin? If you'd dicided differently then, you'd be the most evil wizard by now..."

[Mint]

I understood it as that the other Cenraurs were angry because he had involved himself with human business, not specifically saving Harry, jsut anything to do with humans...

Thats how I interpret it .

[Broken Machine]

Wow I didn't know that about the centaurs. That puts things in a new perspective for me and then confuses the heck out of me. If the centaurs knew Harry Potter would die that night in the woods and he was saved doesn't that mean that Harry really has no absolute future. That would make our assumption that Harry is going to defeat Voldimort less absolute then we had assumed. That means that somewhere down the line someone else has to defeat Voldiemort because the stars have already told us that Harry should have died that night, or that Voldie would become unstoppable. Someone hit me with a memory charm so I can go about my happy naive existance.

[Neo]

But if centaurs really can see the future in the sky, then they shoud have seen that Harry was saved by one centaur; so I think that they were mad at him only for having contact with humans, I mean after the centaur saves Harry other centaur sees Harry riding the centaur that saved him (I should check the names, but I'm too lazy for that right now), and tells him that he should be ashamed for having a human riding him

[Scellanis]

i think thats its more that the other centaurs were focussing on the immediate future which said that harry should die in the forest whereas firenze (sp??) may have been looking further ahead into the not so clear future and seen that harry may have a part in that if his near future was changed.....and the other centaurs get cross because he meddles in events to help a less definate future come to pass rather than the immediate one they had seen....

after all, future is not determined....its only what can come to pass if something happens....firenze must have been looking at a different future than the others

[Neo]

I like that theory Sonk, maybe the immediate future seemed that Harry was going to die, but Firenze noticed in another future that not.

[Holly Golightly]

Or maybe the first two were checking out the same bt of sky, and just missed a planet or something, which changed the whole meaning!!!

[Neo]

That could be, but in that case Fireze could have told them to look that other part of the sky, no?

[Holly Golightly]

Okies, maybe that wasnt' very plausable then...

I supose that they just would have had to interpret what they saw differently...

[Neo]

Does anyone (which I supposed it is only Holly) how centaurs read the sky, because if there are rules then, all must see the same in the sky, no?

[Holly Golightly]

I would asume that it's a bit of astrology type thing.. you know, if this planet is here, it means this, but if that one of over there, it is changed to something else...

so, maybe firenze just saw a planet/star/whatever that the others missed...>? which thus changed the meanings of other things...