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Kreacher

Postby Nacht » Tuesday 19 August 2003 7:10:34pm

Now that Sirius is dead who will be Kreachers master? Narcissa? Bellatrix?

What will Kreacher be able to tell them? Is he still bound to Sirius' past commands? If not, he can tell Narcissa a lot of interesting things. At least Grimmauld place won't be a secret to the death eaters anymore.
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Re: Kreacher

Postby hoopsmaster88 » Tuesday 19 August 2003 7:28:34pm

Nacht wrote:At least Grimmauld place won't be a secret to the death eaters anymore.


it still will b/c dumbledore is still the secret keeper, and therefore the only person who would be able to tell someone about grimmauld place.

as for kreacher's master, narcissa is the obvious choice b/c that's who he went to when he left grimmauld place. but it may be possible that he didn't know where bellatrix was at that time and went to narcissa instead.
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Postby pinky p » Tuesday 19 August 2003 10:04:48pm

I think it will be Harry who is Kreachers master, because he is obviously Sirius' first choice as an heir and Kreacher is Sirius' property. That also means that Harry will be the new owner of Grimmauld Place.
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Postby gecko » Tuesday 19 August 2003 10:22:55pm

I really like that theory, pinky (can I call you that?) ! :P
Do you think kreacher will change if Harry treats him in a respectful way (if kreacher comes back at all, maybe house elfs are bound to blood so he would go with Narcissa or Bellatrix instead of Harry)..

If he changes, and starts to like Harry, maybe he could be very valuable asset to the order. He could then spy on Narcissa and perhaps even on Bellatrix.. mm I don't see it happening, but it could :grin: !
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Postby Meg Boyd » Wednesday 20 August 2003 1:26:00am

While, personally, I think they ought to kill the bloody little sucker...I mean the awful trick Kreature pulled! Harry will inherit that son of a [bleep] and he'll make a mistake like Sirius did and tell him to get out of his life forever and Kreature will go to Narcissa...

...unless...they are really nice to him...remember the blanket Hermione gave Kreature, perhaps this is a key to Kreatures future with the Order...I mean no good dead goes un noticed
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Postby Vivian Borgin » Wednesday 20 August 2003 7:39:24am

Off with his traitorous little wrinkly head! :evil:
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Postby Hermy » Wednesday 20 August 2003 10:35:44am

No matter how nice he is to Kreacher, I don't think he'll ever be able to change. He'll try to betray Harry at the first opportunity.
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Postby choki » Wednesday 20 August 2003 3:33:35pm

Maybe DD can persuade Kreacher to join the house-elves in Hogwarts alongside with Dobby and Winky...which means we have a problem, houston
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Postby AccioNiffler » Wednesday 20 August 2003 4:02:44pm

I think that it would make sense that Harry would be Sirius's heir, but how does that work in the magical world? Do they have wills and stuff like in the muggle world? I also dont think that Kreacher will ever change. He's a stupid little git whose set in his dark little ways. Maybe the blanket does mean something for Hermione, but not to Harry or the order. Maybe Kreacher will remember her kindness and do something to pay her back. And I'm quite sure that Harry would not be nice to Kreacher if he got him. Harry knows how much Sirius hated him, and now that Sirius is dead, Harry will probably go on hating who is godfather did.
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Postby Dink Meeker » Wednesday 20 August 2003 4:45:14pm

Meg Boyd wrote:...unless...they are really nice to him...remember the blanket Hermione gave Kreature, perhaps this is a key to Kreatures future with the Order...I mean no good dead goes un noticed


I prefer the phrase no good deed goes unpunished. :o I can't see Kreacher changing in any signifigant manner. I hope he gets hit by a bus. :grin:
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Postby Vivian Borgin » Thursday 21 August 2003 5:17:52am

He has probably already run back to Narcissa for good, anyway. I'm willing to bet he's already there. Maybe if we're lucky, Dobby will be waiting outside the Manor for him with a Quidditch Beater bat. :D
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Postby Meg Boyd » Thursday 21 August 2003 5:20:50am

hooo, the possibilties...muhahaha...i was thinking more rogue bludger style...

anyway I hope Kreacher doesn't show up again in the story unless his head is on one of those mounts in Grimmauld place, but i have a nasty feeling he will
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Postby Hermy » Thursday 21 August 2003 8:34:27am

I can't see Kreacher returning the favour to Hermione. He kept referring to her as a mudblood didn't he? It wouldn't surprise me if Kreacher does something to Hermione which will make her abandon her SPEW campaign.
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Postby Iluvatar » Thursday 21 August 2003 9:45:36am

I think Kreacher may change but I find that unlikely. He's in with Narcissa and furthermore House-elves are bound by magic to the family which means he's pretty much bound to Narcissa now.

As for Harry being nice to Kreacher I don't think so. Kreacher lied to Harry and thus is partly responsible for Sirius' death so I don't see how Harry could possibly forgive him.

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Postby choki » Thursday 21 August 2003 10:10:39am

I not sure abt this but since Kreacher is bounded to the Black family, shouldn't Narcissa and Bellatrix be considered out of the Black cos they now belong to the Malfoy and Lestrange family branch?
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