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another (but different!!!) topic on Ron+Hermione

Postby Charis » Saturday 23 August 2003 12:02:50am

What if Ron and Hermione are already together, but keeping their relationship from Harry? I can't take credit for this theory, I found it on a column by Josh Smith on mugglenet. Sorry the article's so long... I already deleted some of it.

Maybe Ron and Hermione were dating, only in secret. Absurd you say? Well maybe, but there is a surprising amount of evidence to back it up.
Why would they date in secret? Harry is their best friend, why wouldn't they want him to know? Well consider Harry's mood in this book. In the beginning, he's already mad at Ron and Hermione for keeping information from him. But more than that, he's mad that they are together, having fun, doing all sorts of non-Privet Drive activities without him. If he were to find out they were dating, wouldn't that make him more angry? He might see this as a confirmation that they were in fact having all sorts of fun without him. Ron and Hermione know Harry is angry and confused, and the last thing they want him to feel is left out. If you accept that, it seems almost realistic that they wouldn't tell Harry if they were in a romantic relationship. Now to the evidence.

"...Ron and Hermione, who, though he often saw them whispering together and casting anxious looks in his direction..."(pg 119, OotP). Harry thinks that they are talking about his impending trial which could lead to his expulsion, but he never actually finds out what they are saying. Maybe they are talking about Harry’s trial, but it doesn’t seem entirely unlikely that they would be doing boyfriend/girlfriend things, and they are shooting anxious looks towards Harry because they don't want him to find out about it.

There are multiple cases were Hermione jumps to Ron's defense in this book. When Fred and George are making fun of Ron right after he becomes a prefect, Hermione sticks up for him. When they are giving him a hard time about Quidditch, Hermione criticizes them for it. Harry is Ron's friend, why isn't he always coming to Ron's rescue when he's being ridiculed? Why is it that Hermione gets all upset when he is getting teased? Again, this leads me to believe that Ron and Hermione are more than friends.

On the other side of that token, Ron and Hermoine are constantly bickering (more than usual that is) about little things that seem to not matter. The readers of mine who have dated can attest to the fact that those are the things couples argue about. It's not usually big things that cause this bickering, it's little, seemingly unimportant things that do; it's the proverbial straw breaking the camel's back.
Let's start with Hermione kissing Ron on the cheek right before his first Quidditch match. First, notice that she doesn't kiss Harry. Now some of you may think this kiss is just between two friends, and he needs support and she's trying to wish him luck. Maybe. Some may notice that Ron is puzzled by this, and that if they were dating, he should be anything but puzzled. Fair point. However, if they are dating in secret, it would come as a surprise to him that Hermione kissed him right in front of the one person they are trying to hide their relationship from. I'll agree that she is kissing Ron to try and ease his nerves, but I don't think she'd do it if Ron was just a friend.

Another small piece of evidence: consider Ron's Christmas gift to Hermione (perfume.) That just seems like something you'd give a girlfriend as opposed to a friend.


I think he's onto something. But, I'm not sure if Ron and Hermione would go to great legnths to hide their relationshipe from Harry, I mean, he is their best friend, I would think they'd feel too guilty to do so. I think that its more of a they mutually like eachother thing and know it, just don't want to have a relationship because of the strain it would put on their relationship with Harry.

What do you think about Josh Smith's theory?
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Postby Colin » Saturday 23 August 2003 5:44:47am

What do I think? It's certainly possible. That dratted Rowling woman scams us constantly. She WOULD stoop to this:)

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Postby Holly Golightly » Monday 25 August 2003 7:18:28am

I do like the idea, but I don't think that it's right. I think that those things that happened, the kiss, the perfume, are just a prelude to them dating. Kind of hints to eachother that they have feelings from the other. I think that if they were dating in secret, it would have come out at the end of OotP somewhere, somehow!

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Postby Just Mom » Monday 25 August 2003 7:08:56pm

For all of us who KNOW in our "knowers" that Ron and Hermione are meant to be...
This is a really interesting theory.
It wouldn't surprise me if this did come out in the next book and this theory could work with the storyline. On the other hand, these clues can also be a natural build-up of teenage romantic tension...also known as sexual tension which can promote bickering when two people have feelings for each other they don't know how to express.
I have been re-reading PoA and there's a definite build-up of the relationship between Ron and Hermione taking place there. Like when they came back from Hogsmeade for the first time, "looking as if they'd had the time of their lives." And of course in GoF Ron's jealousy of Victor Krum is well plotted.
Yet another thought... These books are told primarily from Harry's point of view. He's the main character so what happens usually between Ron and Hermione is told mostly from Harry's observations. If he's so worked up over Voldemort and all of those matters, he may not have noticed yet as this theory implies...
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Postby Dink Meeker » Monday 25 August 2003 7:17:26pm

Not a bad theory.... Hermione always seems to be with the Weasleys or Ron everytime Harry is supposed to meet him, ie the Quidditch World Cup, Sirius' house.

On the other hand when would Hermione and Ron everfind time to date except during summer holidays. Ron seems to always be with Harry during the school term.


Definately sitting on the fence on this one.... :???: :oops: :???:
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Postby Hermione Weasley » Tuesday 26 August 2003 12:16:04am

i like it but gosh darn it!Its so good i want to believe it but at the same time i want to believe holly too!!!
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Postby Colin » Tuesday 26 August 2003 2:54:57am

I like the idea also, BUT - if there was a bit of snogging (I love that word)going on, wouldn't Ron be happier? I see no evidence of a happier Ron, even for short periods.
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Postby Meg Boyd » Tuesday 26 August 2003 3:28:54am

I like this...but I am not sure they are hiding it...I mean I really like the "romantic tension" angle, yet a hidden romance is something up JKR's alley!

hmmm....
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Postby Just Mom » Tuesday 26 August 2003 4:06:16am

Oh Colin, "snogging" is a wonderful word! Can't wait to use it elsewhere...
I would wonder the same thing....why Ron isn't happier if they are on the sly. On the other hand, how many teenage romances make anyone "happy?" They're always so full of angst, insecurity, and general turmoil.
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Postby Jotomicron » Friday 19 September 2003 5:29:46pm

I think this is the start. Further more, we'll see them dating.
For now, I think they [Ron and Hermione] will just nag each other, then, they'll find they're in love
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Postby Gower » Friday 19 September 2003 5:42:30pm

I do like this theory. And like many other people here, i am undecided. Only time will tell...
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Postby azn wizard » Saturday 20 September 2003 5:40:54am

nice theory, but i do think there is one hole in it...how does ron and hermionie keep their relationship a secret? Do they date in secret? i mean, i can see how they are able to keep it from harry, but whut about the rest of the school? does no one else in the school know about them?
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Postby azn wizard » Saturday 20 September 2003 5:42:09am

oh and on the side point, this may not apply to hermionie, but i know a lot of studious ppl who would not have a relationship b/c it would get into the way of their studies...
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Postby Gower » Saturday 20 September 2003 10:35:22am

azn wizard wrote:oh and on the side point, this may not apply to hermionie, but i know a lot of studious ppl who would not have a relationship b/c it would get into the way of their studies...


I don't think this applies to hermione. But i agree with your previous post, it would be impossible to keep it secret from the whole school.
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Postby Holly Golightly » Saturday 20 September 2003 11:43:43am

I dunno about that Gower! I think that Hermoine would be exactly the type of person to weigh up time that she would loose from study to spend with Ron! :grin:

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