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Postby AccioNiffler » Wednesday 9 July 2003 9:27:26pm

unless what?
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Postby Ju-DedoH » Wednesday 9 July 2003 9:29:09pm

I dunno, some radical change in his behaviour ... but I don't want to believe that he will save Harry as it is discussed somewhere else
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Postby AccioNiffler » Wednesday 9 July 2003 9:34:01pm

I think, well, more like hope, that by the exnd of the series Draco will show some change. I dont thik it will be anything as big as saving Harry though, just because he wouldnt kill him doesnt mean that he would save him, they dislike eachother too much for that
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Postby Ju-DedoH » Wednesday 9 July 2003 9:36:01pm

I agree totally, plus it would be too ... errr ... what's that word again ... ... errr ... cliched ?
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Postby Hermione Weasley » Thursday 10 July 2003 12:50:05am

ok guys i think you are getting off topic because there is a thread for this discussion in the significance ofdraco malfoy and as i have stated before that either way you look at it whatever happens will turn out as how did you guys put oh yeah "cliched" and if you think about it everything in life is "cliched" so will you guys quit making that as an excuse please?!?!anyway please if you are going to continue this discussion on draco please go to that thread and talk about it there thank you.
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Postby Voldemort » Thursday 10 July 2003 1:15:48am

I think that draco couldn't do it yeah it seems like he hates everyone not in sliytherin(s/p)but i think he genuinly cares about people and it makes it impossible to do the avada kedavra curse because my guess is you have to really hate someone or something to do it.


I disagree because Draco was about to let Umbridge do Crucio on Harry in her office. That doesnt seem that he cares.
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Postby Nymphadora_Tonks » Thursday 10 July 2003 10:13:32am

No but i seem to remeber that Draco had a look of shock and/or surprise on his face or woteva when Umbridge was attempting to Crucio Harry.

I think that the relationship between Harry and Draco is one more of big words than actual, true loathing.

Draco seems to be led on by his father a bit, and this is what seems to be the cause of Draco and Harry's bad relationship.

I don't think Draco would really want anyone to get hurt, especially if it means he might be seen as responsible for the cause of the hurt, as before we have seen Umbridge blame others for HER wrong-doings, and he could be seen as a suspect of Crucioing Harry, as he too was in the office with Umbridge! :)
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Postby Ju-DedoH » Thursday 10 July 2003 10:13:26pm

sorry about the "cliched, but it was only a joke about what was going on in that other thread, no offense and sorry again
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Postby Ju-DedoH » Thursday 10 July 2003 10:13:44pm

sorry about the "cliched", but it was only a joke about what was going on in that other thread, no offense and sorry again
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Draco in school

Postby jonny5 » Thursday 17 July 2003 7:50:41am

Ill tell you what -- i am not entirely sure that Draco will be back. Obviously Dumbledore would probably have some moral conundrums about kicking him out, but i would think that the other parents and school governors and whatnot will not allow children of the Death Eaters to continue at Hogwarts. Im seeing a very big controversy in the next book about their being allowed to return to dear ole hogwarts.
on a side note, anyone thought about Durmstrang?
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Postby highsorcerer » Thursday 17 July 2003 9:03:19am

Oh, Draco will be back. It might be different if Narcissa was in Azkaban instead of Lucius, since it was his mother that wanted him close, and she's in charge now. Even if Lucius does escape Azkaban (likely), he's ruined. He can't stick his nose anywhere respectable wizards reside. He'll be a fugitive for the rest of his (hopefully short) life.

In fact, Slytherin House members are likely to be shunned by the rest of the school for some time. The rest of the houses united under Harry and Dumbledore's Army, and the Inquizitional Squad made too many enemies to be forgiven.

Draco will be madder than ever when he returns, but there is less and less he can about it. Harry is far more powerful than he is (and faster, he clearly outdrew Draco during their end-of-year confrontation, and was only saved from a hex by Professor Snape's appearance). He can't threaten anybody with his father anymore (like he did to the fake Professor Moody).

In fact, Harry regards the whole Malfoy / Crabbe / Goyle trio as a joke now, as evidenced by the above mentioned confrontation. A few Slytherin teenagers is absolute boredom after a fight with Voldemort and a dozen Death Eaters.
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Postby Iluvatar » Thursday 17 July 2003 9:40:27am

I think that Draco will be back and that his presence will not be insignificant.

I see a parallel between the relationship Harry vs. Draco and James vs. Snape.

Harry is superior in skill to Draco and James apparently was superior to Snape (Pensieve during Occlumency). Harry and Draco loath each other just as Snape and James did. It is my opinion that Harry will save Draco's life just as James once saved Snape. Draco will then be in debt to Harry and hate him even more for it just like Snape. I think it was Snape's debt towards James that made him switch to Dumbledore's side therefore Draco might turn around and side with Dumbledore even if he continues to hate Harry. He might even be crucial in the final demise of Voldemort.
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Postby Eol » Friday 15 August 2003 2:26:59pm

K back on topic, I'm not sure the protection should still work on Privet Drive, as Harry doesn't see it as home, he sees Hogwarts as home.
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Postby highsorcerer » Saturday 16 August 2003 10:01:36am

oh, but James was a show-off at 15, hexing people for the fun of it. Harry isn't - he trained DA for self defense - not taunting others.

And well Harry can dismiss three Slytherin teenagers (Malfoy, Crabbe, and Goyle) as unworthy opponents (after taking on voldemort again), the opposite is not true. That trio realizes Harry is their better, so they gang up on him to get their shots in. Hasn't worked yet. They got the worst of it going from on the express in book 4 and 5.

Malfoy, Crabbe, and Goyle should now be scared of Harry, because he's better than them at magic - and better than their fully trained death eater fathers. They know it and despite what they think is their birthright (power through pure blood); they are on the losing side now.
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Postby Mumbleberry » Saturday 16 August 2003 10:32:21am

It's pretty important that Harry/Draco doesn't parallel James/Severus, because that was a relationship that led to more emnity. As the we hear from the SH at the beginning of OotP: The houses need to unite. If they don't, the wizarding world will fall. That means Draco is going to have to form some kind of alliance with - probably - the DA. Which doesn't mean he and Harry have to like each other, just get along and work together. The old Slytherin=evil thing isn't sustainable.
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