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Postby Lupus » Saturday 13 March 2004 7:02:34pm

Hermione's head of her class... I doubt Lupin would have kept her from fighting the boggart just because she'd have trouble... that's why they're in school, to get past that. Nope, I think his reasoning was similar to why he didn't let Harry fight the boggart: he knew the reaction from other people could get dangerous.


I agree. It seems to me that Hermione is too clever to have as her greatest fear failing the classes, even though she is obsessed with school. I think that she is more aware of dangers lying ahead of them than Harry or Ron. She is more mature and has good head, so I wouldn't be surprised if she already guessed that Harry must be the one to defeat Voldemort. Maybe her greatest fear was Voldemort killing Harry.
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Postby Amon Rê » Saturday 13 March 2004 10:51:19pm

We could look to her past, I mean we really know nothing about Hermione's past...we know she has muggle parents(assuming they are not adoptive) that are dentists and she is an only child...that's it...Have I missed anything else?
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Postby Athena Appleton » Saturday 13 March 2004 11:09:29pm

I doubt she had many friends in primary school... really, the main reason she, Harry and Ron became friends was because of the troll, and while she has other friends (Neville apparently likes her, and she is close to Ginny), for the most part, the other students seem to almost just put up with her as Ron and Harry's friend. Her parents don't balk when she decides to spend the holidays with her friends instead of skiing with them. In fact, her parents are extremely encouraging and supportive of her magical learning.

I guess it would be assumed that she developed the theory of "when in doubt, go to the library" as a very young student, so she's most likely always been the way she was in the beginning of P/SS, and her blossoming friendship with two good but sometimes rule-breaking boys has mellowed her out to where her talent doesn't come across as snobbiness anymore...

You are right, though, even when looking deep into what makes Hermione tick, we don't have much to go by on her past... actually, I read somewhere that J.K. Rowling finds it funny that most people don't worry themselves about Hermione too much, they just assume she can always handle things herself.
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Postby pandora315 » Sunday 14 March 2004 7:02:07am

I thought it was a good idea that Lupin thought she'd be afraid of breaking the rules with a time-turner but then I remembered a couple things. She wasn't really breaking teh rules, MacGonnagol had to write forms and get special permissions for her to have it, so that means she wasn't breaking the rules. Not only that but I don't think Lupin would have known about the time-turner. Dumbledore did because he knows everything and he's headmaster, and McGonnagol did becuase she's head of house, but I don't think anyone else did becuase then they'd know how Sirius escaped in the end. If it was common knowledge among the teachers Snape would have known as well, and knowing how angry he was I don't think thats the case. That said, I don't know what it was. I think at the end of the book when it was McGonnagol saying she failed everything- that was just pressure talking. I think it would ahve been something different previously, maybe something related to her past becuause as someone said, we really don't know much about her before she came to school.
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Postby Alice I » Sunday 14 March 2004 7:17:04am

I agree with those who feel that the McGonagall boggart theory and the funny thing is Ron who sometimes says things in a flip way ends up comming true said as they were leaving the class "what would it have been for you a homework assignment were you only got 9 out of 10?"

I don't think hermione got a chance at the boggart because it got infront of Harry first and Lupin stopped the class right then and there because of the Voldemort thing. If others hadn't gotten a turn yet then that is how it would have been but as it was there was only Harry and Hermione left.
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Postby Athena Appleton » Sunday 14 March 2004 6:14:50pm

pandora315 wrote:I thought it was a good idea that Lupin thought she'd be afraid of breaking the rules with a time-turner but then I remembered a couple things. She wasn't really breaking teh rules, MacGonnagol had to write forms and get special permissions for her to have it, so that means she wasn't breaking the rules.


One subtle difference... she wasn't technically breaking the rules, but Hermione generally likes to tell all that she knows, or at least hint at it A LOT, so I think it should be noted that she didn't tell even her two closest friends. She may not have been breaking the rules exactly, but she wasn't being entirely straightforward, either.

Not only that but I don't think Lupin would have known about the time-turner. Dumbledore did because he knows everything and he's headmaster, and McGonnagol did becuase she's head of house, but I don't think anyone else did becuase then they'd know how Sirius escaped in the end. If it was common knowledge among the teachers Snape would have known as well, and knowing how angry he was I don't think thats the case.


I think, as a caring teacher, Lupin would have noticed after a while that Hermione was in every class. I think he would have found out about her secret somehow, sometime through the year. I don't think Snape would have known, because I don't think Snape would have cared enough about her to notice that she seems to not be up to par (she starts having a nervous breakdown towards the end of the year). Several of her teachers, though, seem to be granting her a little leniency (sp?), as if they know how hard this year is being on her (Flitwick didn't seem too perterbed, but then, Flitwick doesn't often seem perterbed)...

Lupin, also, would likely recognise a fellow rule-breaker. He knows what a student who has some activity to hide would look like. :-) Aside from Dumbledore, I think he knows more about the happenings of Harry and Co. than anyone else in the school.

That said, my Lupin theory has just gone out the window, seeing as a boggart was their first practical lesson, so it was WAY early in the year. He wouldn't have had time to really get to know Hermione... so, nevermind! :grin:
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