Voldemort and Lily

[highsorcerer]

Probably. Voldemort wanted to kill Harry to create his last Horcrux and defy the prophey. Actually, he DID kill Lily and maybe made Harry his last Horcrux (an unwilling one, but Harry's scar and his powers, especially Parseltounge implies Voldemort gave a part of himself to Harry.)

[pheonixrising]

[quote="dibble2"]Hurry, go read JKR's most recent interview on mugglenet.com. Lots of interesting things in there, including this stumper:

ES: This is one of my burning questions since the third book - why did Voldemort offer Lily so many chances to live? Would he actually have let her live?

JKR: Mmhm.

ES: Why?

JKR: [silence] Can't tell you.

What? What's that all about? Voldemort letting someone live? There's something huge going on here! What do you think?[/quote] my thoughts on this were what that is like an impossible idea she was muggle born and he hated muggles . so y would he have let her live then i thought of the impossible idea that he could have loved her. at first i laughed at this but then i had some doubt then i laughed some more because loving lily was / is snape's job.

[Phaerie]

I didn't think Voldemort was capable of love- so i doubt he would have spared Lily on those grounds. Its ironic really by offering Lily the chance to live, he caused his own destruction.

We still don't know very much about Lily- other than her basic appearance and that she was a good student. Maybe she had something that Voldemort wanted- aside from Harry. Maybe she had or knew something that he needed/wanted. Afterall wehaven't heard about anyone else being offered the opportunity not to be killed. Of course it may imply be that JK had to define between James death and how it didn't save Lily and Harry and how Lily's death did save Harry because she had a choice not to die but she choose to protect harry.

[Athena Appleton]

yup i read that too and was like WHAT!?! it confirmed what i thought all along. i mean we practically know james potter we've got so much backstory on him, but we know next to nothing about lily potter, bar she was muggle born, female and harry's mother with red hair and green eyes.

JK's holding back details about her cos there's something huge to come. but i don't know what. most theories are that LV wanted her to join the DE's so offered her the chance, but would that really work? she's a 'mudblood' to them so i don't believe that theory.

I don't think that would matter. Snape was a half-blood, which would have been just as bad in Voldemort's eyes as a muggle-born (See the FAQ at http://www.jkrowling.com.)

no i don't think LV only kills people for a reason.

In GoF, Voldemort seems slightly put-out that another person had to die than he had intended (I can't remember... I think it was Frank Bryce). That does lend the idea that he kills for a reason.

Yeah I read the interviews on mugglenet as well. Why did he bother to give her chances to live? He obviously felt she could give him something that James couldn't. We know she was good at charms, was he planning something else at the time that she would have been able to help him with? Could he have been working on hiding his horcruxes? His priorities obviously changed after Harry lived and he lost his body. What were his plans before that night?

Do you think LV might have had respect for Lily because she was also a half-blood like himself and his other trusted DE Snape?

Something is pointing me in this direction for some reason. He also gave HP the offer of joining him in Philosophers Stone and Harry's a half-blood too.

I think it's becoming increasingly clear that many people thought highly of Lily, and everyone wanted her on their side. It could be that she was offered a chance to be a DE, but I don't think that's the only reason Voldemort would have spared her life, particularly since she was already trying to protect Harry when he told her to get out of the way.

The half-blood theory is intriguing, though. He saw a likeness in her, like he did with Snape and with Harry. Wondering out loud: how long did the Sorting Hat sit on her head?

[Tanuki]

How talented was Lily, since everyone seems to mention this in one way or another. Look at how Slughorn was when he thought of her.

As for Voldermort needing a reason to kill Frank Bryce. that can't be easy to do (quite inconvenient) and people tend to notice a dead body. As for why he didn't kill Lily, that is a stumper

[Amythest]

Snowy darling, unless Petunia's mother had a little something something going on with a wizard when she had Lily, this girl was in no way, shape, or form a half blood.
Also, there was no spell casting. jk went Aslan on this bit of magic and "invoked ancient magic"; it was not a loop hole lily was consciensly creating.

wouldn't it be funny if jk was just trying to extend the tension in the scene and really didn't mean to cause all this controversy?

[KAD]

[KAD]

http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview.shtml

Here's Part 1 of the interview...Lots of interesting comments by JK in the interview...^^^

Part 2:
http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview2.shtml

Part 3:
http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview3.shtml

Enjoy...

just found something interesting - of no relevence however!!!

''He was unhinged. Yes, he laughed. He knew what he'd lost. It was a humorless laugh. Pettigrew, who they, in a slightly patronizing way, James and Sirius at least, who they allowed to hang round with them, it turned out that he was a better wizard than they knew. Turned out he was better at hiding secrets than they knew.'' quote frrom jkr - mugglenet interview

the last bit where she says that pettigrew ''turned out he was better at hiding secrets than anyone knew'' wonder what this means? million things it could mean that we know i.e. living as a rat for several years - but y would she mention him in such a cryptic fashion?

[Athena Appleton]

Yeah... I'm not thinkin it was all that cryptic. There are lots of secrets Pettigrew kept. No one thought him capable.

[Nicolas Flamel]

i don't know how relevant this is but was a red haired female with green eyes not often used as a sacrifice for satan?