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Postby Neo » Thursday 15 May 2003 6:18:26am

But the chances for Peter to be captured before Voldemort taes Azkaban are very low. I mean Peter usually doesn't go around just wondering
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Postby Holly Golightly » Thursday 15 May 2003 8:21:02am

I know that's itsn't not very likely to happen, but I still like the theory alot!

And anyways, Peter is a bit of a dill... he did almost get into that trouble with Bertha Jenkins (sp) after all! He only got out of that because she was a bit stupid too, and followed him out intot he forrest or something???
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Postby Neo » Thursday 15 May 2003 8:31:40am

Good point there (it is Bertha Jorkins); and now that Voldemrthas a real body Peter is allowed to move more freely, no?
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Postby Holly Golightly » Friday 16 May 2003 8:43:41pm

Well, yes and no there...

Before he had to stay veyr clost to Voldie to feed him and stuff, and now that he has a body, Peter won't have to do that...

But... he still cannot be seen/recognised by anone other than the DE's... because then they will know that he didnt' die 12yrs ago *14 by now???* and he'll be busted!

OOH, what if Snape goes abck to spy and then sees Peter, and is thus forced to believe Sirius' innosence??? :P How's ya liking that theory???
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Postby Neo » Saturday 17 May 2003 6:43:26am

I think Snape knows about Sirius innocence, he is just angree because Sirius could have kill him.
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Postby Holly Golightly » Saturday 17 May 2003 8:20:45am

:-? In the end of book 3 he seemed pretty convinced that Sirius was guilty...
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Postby Neo » Monday 19 May 2003 4:32:01pm

I know, but surely DD would have tell him the next year, or at least when DD asks Sirius to transform in front on them (when Mrs. Weasley was there) and ask them to shake hands, if Snpe still thought Sirius was guilty he would ask DD why he wanted him to shake hands with a guilty person
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Postby Holly Golightly » Tuesday 20 May 2003 5:23:53am

I dont' know...

there is a difference between Snape thinking that Sirius is gulity, and Snape knowing that DD believes him to be innocent...

And old hatreds die hard... Snape might still have lingering doubts about Sirius, and physical proof like seeing Peter alive would be much more convincing than DD simply telling Snape that Sirius is innocent...
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Postby Neo » Tuesday 20 May 2003 9:11:43pm

I think Snape trusts DD, so if DD tells him he is innocent he will believe it; just that Snape hated so much Sirius that even if he is innocent it doesn't matter.
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Postby Holly Golightly » Wednesday 21 May 2003 6:30:14am

Snape follows DD, but he seems to have this problem with believeing the same things DD dies.. that doesnt' explain very well..

like when DD hired Lupin... Snape kept questioning that, and uh, I cant' remember any more off the top of my head... He didnt' seem to believe that Harry had nothing to do with Sirius excaping *even though he did* when DD told him so.. it's like he understands and can accept his authority, but in his own mind, he thinks that DD is wrong about a few things...

Doe sthat make sense??? What I'm trying to say??? :-?
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Postby Neo » Wednesday 21 May 2003 7:03:19pm

Yes, it makes sense; just that you are only showing my point, Snape might not have the same idea of DD in cases in which Harry and the Marauders are involved only because he hates them, so even if they are innocent as he hates them he wants them to be punished.
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Postby Holly Golightly » Thursday 22 May 2003 6:01:20am

well, not really, because I think that while Snape trusts DD, and follows him, he doesnt' necessarily believe him...

I dont' think that without unarguable proof, like him seeing Peter alive, Snape will ever believe Sirius is innocent and thus really trust him... I can see Snape trying to keep things from Sirius, stuff like that...
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Postby Neo » Saturday 24 May 2003 4:24:27am

Take the example of Lupin (this threat is about him by the way), Snape hread the story about the werewolf, and in that moment knew Lupin wasn't guilty, but still hates him, so?
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Postby Holly Golightly » Saturday 24 May 2003 5:27:12am

not quite what I mean... I ws thinking more like, DD hired Lupin, and kept telling Snape that he was okay, and to be trusted... Snape never trusted Lupin... even when he found out somehting fromt he past wasn't ture about him, Snape still jumped at the oppurtunity to capture him...

if he believed in DD, and tursted him, instead of just following him, Snape would have either trusted what Lupin was telling him, or at least given him the oppurtunity to explain himself...
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Postby Neo » Saturday 24 May 2003 5:36:21am

That's exactly my point; Snape acts because of his hate and not because they are guilty or no
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