Harry's Parents Were Not Killed By Voldemort

[Sacred Guardian]

the books said that they were killed together, and they both consecutivly came out of voldemorts wand, the books say it, lily and james were killed on the same night

[Holly Golightly]

Well, I can't find anywhere specifically where it says that they died on the same night, just that people think that's what happened, and that's not always reliable, after all, prople thought/think that it was sirius's fault, and that wormail is dead, but that's not true, is it...

And they didnt' come out of the wand at the same time, so it proves nothing... after all, Bertha Jorkins came out just before Lily (from memeory) but they weren't killed on the same night... it just says lily came out before james, which means he dies first, but not necessarily on the same dae... maybe Voldie killed him the day before???

(And I know some say james came out first, but that is a misprint... )

[Scellanis]

right then.....

first Harry's curse rebounded on Voldemort so it must have been voldemort saying the curse using his wand. That means Voldemort killed Lily because she died trying to save Harry from the curse and she came out of Voldemort's wand anyway. Then James also died on the same night by Voldemort's wand so by Voldemort...reason being...did anybody read what Harry hears when he meets a dementor...first he hears his own curse, then his mother screaming to take her instead and then he hears his father telling Lily to get Harry out of there.

another reason they both died together by the same wand on the same night. They were in a house protected by a secret keeper....now wouldn't Lily and Harry have moved house and secret keeper if Lily had not died immediately after James??

They were happy at their time of death anyway, they had Harry didn't they, I always get the impression from the description of the photos they are meant to be a nice happy family....i think the being unhappy thing means you have an unhappy life...not just an unhappy moment of death....

[Violet]

Im pretty much certain that lily and james were killed together, and i'm positive that they were both killed by voldie, because they came out of his wand at the end of book 4!

[Hermione Weasley]

i agree with violet.i think they were killed at the same time and i think voldie did it.

[TMAUndomiel]

Yeah when they both came out of the wand it kinda guarenteed that Voldemort killed them both

[Broken Machine]

Voldemort did kill them both but I still think they were killed in two different places. I'm still going with my Lupin theory. I think Lupin and James may have been off fighting death eaters when Voldie killed James and Lupin ran back to the house to warn Lilly. Unfortunatly he probably turned into a werewolf and failed to protect her. Then Voldie killed Lilly and then got the blast end effect of his own spell. I find it hard to believe that James Potter couldn't defend himself against Voldie long enough for his wife and child to escape the house.

[Holly Golightly]

Okies, as prev mentioned...
They both came out of Voldie's wand... all this proves is that he killed them both, and James before Lily...

In Harry's memory, this is what we hear...

White for obscured his senses... big, blurred shapes were moving around him... then, came a new vioce, a man's voice, shouting, panicking -
'Lily, take Harry and go! It's him! Go! Run! I'll hold him of - '
The sounds of someone stumbling from a room - a door bursting open - a cackle of high-pitched laughter -

A man's voice, not necessarily James... and who was stumbling from the room, if James died??? Certainly not Voldie...

I think that there is a very good reason that JK doesn't specifically show is that is was James. She's making us think that it was him, without telling us that it was, so that later on, it can be twisted to something we dont' expect!!!

Or at least, that's what I think anyways!!! [/code]

[Hermione Weasley]

it could be sirius or lupin b/c we know they were close friends of james' if it wasn't him

[pippin1029]

Wizards and witches that were killed by Voldemort become ghosts.

mebbe harry's parents are ghosts somewhere...they could be trying to haunt wormtail-after all he betrayed them...and maybe they'll appear in OoP to help harry or whatnot!

plz pardon the unintelligible ramblings of an exhausted child

[werebane]

no cuz they were a ni9ce happy family

[Meg Boyd]

I think they did not become ghosts because they died fighting for what they believed in. They knew Harry was special, spite the fact that he was their baby. The loved him so much that they died protecting him...they died happy because the couple died together knowing their child would live, and some day be the key to save the world from darkness. A bitter sweet happy, but still not sad.

[Gwared]

Okies, as prev mentioned...
They both came out of Voldie's wand... all this proves is that he killed them both, and James before Lily...

In Harry's memory, this is what we hear...

White for obscured his senses... big, blurred shapes were moving around him... then, came a new vioce, a man's voice, shouting, panicking -
'Lily, take Harry and go! It's him! Go! Run! I'll hold him of - '
The sounds of someone stumbling from a room - a door bursting open - a cackle of high-pitched laughter -

A man's voice, not necessarily James... and who was stumbling from the room, if James died??? Certainly not Voldie...

I think that there is a very good reason that JK doesn't specifically show is that is was James. She's making us think that it was him, without telling us that it was, so that later on, it can be twisted to something we dont' expect!!!

Or at least, that's what I think anyways!!! [/code]

I was hoping this quote would pop up in a thread sometime as I've since re-read PoA:

White fog obscured his senses... big, blurred shapes were moving around him... then, came a new vioce, a man's voice, shouting, panicking -
'Lily, take Harry and go! It's him! Go! Run! I'll hold him of - '
The sounds of someone stumbling from a room - a door bursting open - a cackle of high-pitched laughter

Right, imagine if you will James screaming at Lily then Lily grabbing Harry and in her panic stumbling from the room whilst LV bursts in to tackle James??, or even just stumbling to the room where Harry is?

That in my opinion is what happened...but Lupin's reaction when he hears Harry recount this is slightly disconcerting and puts a tiny sliver of doubt into my mind.

[gecko]

Okay, interesting to read all your slightly different theories on what happened. I wonder one thing though. If it was Lupin who was in the house and called for Lily, why doesn't Harry recognise his voice? He hears the voices everytime he encounters Dementors I think, and he knows Lupin's voice. That's why I don't think it's Lupin Harry hears in his memory.

Voldemort might have been stumbling in the other room because he was hit by a spell from the man who was there?

[Meg Boyd]

hmmm...Broken Machine you do have something...the Lupin Werewolf thing could work, but I confused...are you saying after James was killed, Lupin tried going back to warn Lily, but turned into a werewolf, then turned back to a human long enough to make it to the house just in time to say that last blurb of warning....or are you saying James was killed, so Lupin went to Lily to warn her, but turned into a werewolf just as he was saying his warning? Either way Lupin (werewolf form or not) would have been in Voldie's way, and since voldie usually has no problem killing innocent people, why was Lupin's life saved???

[Gwared wrote:]...but Lupin's reaction when he hears Harry recount this is slightly disconcerting and puts a tiny sliver of doubt into my mind.[/quote]

Well imagine your best friend and his wife was murdered and 13 years later you are talking to their only child, who is recalling the details of their deaths...how would you re-act? Some people would freak out, and others would say nothing, while the truth gnaws at them...