Snape adopt Harry??? (definate EEK!)

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Snape adopt Harry??? (definate EEK!)

Postby Holly Golightly » Thursday 17 July 2003 4:13:59pm

Okies, before everyone shoots me down for this topic, I know that it is far fetched!!! :oops: But here goes my train of thought...

I was reading through GoF again (I'm going thru the whole series) and I was thinking, while posting theories, that it's funny how we read strange things in the books, that seem just in there for something to fill the space between important stuff, that turn into something later on... you know, just common-place things... like the Lovegoods mentioned before the Quiddich Cup, then Luna Lovegood... :D

Anyways, I got to the chapter on the Unexpected Task, and this is what I read...

GoF, P342 wrote:... and Snape, of course, would no sooner let them play games in class than adopt Harry.


Sooo, I was thinking, well, Harry no longer has a legal guardian now that Sirius is dead, unless he has a godmother, which I doubt... :( so someone must become his legal guardian till he 'comes of age', which is at 17, no??? So he needs this guardian for the next yr anyways! That quote just made me think, well, maybe Snape could be a possibility??? :eek: It would certainly make Harry's life a new form of hell!!!

So, though it's unlikely, tell me what's your thinking anyways! But remember, be kind! :grin: I know it's far-fetched!!!

Holly ;)
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Postby Iluvatar » Thursday 17 July 2003 4:35:25pm

I would think that he doesn't need one. He didn't have a legal gaurdian in the magical world before Sirius appeared, unless you count the Dursleys.
That makes almost 3 whole years without a true legal guardian.

That said and assuming he gets one, I doubt it will be Snape. I don't think Dumbledore would inflict that on Harry and even so, I don't think Snape would accept. I think Lupin will most likely become Harry's legal gaurdian. He seems to be very reasonable and reliable. It might also be McGonagall for the same reason.
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Postby Colin » Thursday 17 July 2003 7:03:07pm

As much as we dislike the Dursleys, they ARE his legal guardians.
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Postby hoopsmaster88 » Friday 18 July 2003 12:23:50am

i think snape adopting harry is a definite possibility. it may come as an order from dumbledore and even though both would be reluctant they would cooperate b/c they respect dumbledore. similar to the occlumency lessons.
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Postby June » Friday 18 July 2003 5:11:09am

Why would Harry need a legal guardian in the magical world? As Iluvatar said, he didn't have one before Sirius came along... besides, can we really consider Sirius as Harry's legal guardian? He might be Harry's godfather, but before Book 5, no one else except Dumbledore accepted his guardianship over Harry... so is he still legal then? (Sorry if I sound ignorant, but at least, in my culture, godparents is just in name... that is, they don't have any legal status over their godchildren under the law...)

Anyway. I should think that Harry's legal guardians would be the Dursleys, even if they are not magical...
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Postby highsorcerer » Friday 18 July 2003 7:23:42am

It's difficult to know who Harry's legal guardian is. Under US law (and probably UK, since both are based on similar common law standards), James and Lily had the right to appoint a legal guardian for Harry in the event of their deaths. According to Sirius Black (as reported in PoA, during the overheard conversation in the Three Broomsticks), he was Harry's legal guardian, but Dumbledore overruled him, and left him with the Dursleys (both for his own protection, and because Sirius was in no condition to be Harry's guardian after the scene with Pettigrew). That left Harry as a legal ward of the Dursleys, though Dumbledore relented somewhat to Sirius's right, both at the end of PoA (accepting Sirius's signature on the Hogsmead form), and during the summer between GoF and OotP.

Harry is bound to the Dursley's out of necessity, though it's pretty obvious that the Weasley's would be happy to care for him over summers and holidays. However, Harry is nearing a point where he no longer requires a legal guardian. He could probably file for emancipated minor status when he hits sixteen (he does have funds to provide food, lodging, and other necessities, at least in the wizarding world), and between book 6 and 7, he'll be a legal adult.

Harry's stay with the Dursley's has become shorter, due to the intervention of the Weasley's (the twins and Ron in one case, the adults in another), Fudge (PoA), and the Order of the Phoenix (OotP). Harry's use to the OotP has substantially increased, as he's both a barometer to Voldemort's feelings and a window to his thoughts. Now that he has the ability to kick Voldemort out of his thoughts anytime he wants to (by focusing on love; it drove Voldemort out of him in the Mom), he should be taught legimency, in order to be the most effective spy the Order has. Isn't it ironic that in the connection between the two, Harry has the upper hand?
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Postby Bimbybecca » Friday 18 July 2003 10:53:58am

I love your theory and i think that Snape should adopt Harry, can you just imagine it! I can see it now, Snape will be feeding Harry cabbage soup and making him sleep on a pile of hay! On the other hand i would rather have Harry adopted by Gildery Lockhart, that guy rules!
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Postby Gwared » Friday 18 July 2003 8:40:06pm

Bimbybecca wrote:I love your theory and i think that Snape should adopt Harry, can you just imagine it! I can see it now, Snape will be feeding Harry cabbage soup and making him sleep on a pile of hay! On the other hand i would rather have Harry adopted by Gildery Lockhart, that guy rules!


Hmm, Harry and Snape sitting in the dungeon singing along to the theme of Sponge Bob Squarepants...where have I read that idea?
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Postby Holly Golightly » Saturday 19 July 2003 7:45:22am

Damn, why is it that everytime I come up with a theory, I always manage to forget one main thing!!! I completely forgot about the time before Sirius arrived on the scene when I wrote that... :oops:

But still, that quote just seems random enough to make it seem like ap ossibility to me! So I still like it!!! hehehe!


Can you imagine tho, Snape trying to take away Harry's right to go to Hogsmede, Attempting to exert authority over harry, due to his guardianship, and I'm sure many more hillarious situations!!!

hehehe :lol:
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Postby Sacred Guardian » Sunday 20 July 2003 2:03:49am

maybe, but i doubt it, i just can't see JKR writing snape adoting harry, i think its just too far fetched, but i won't count it out
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Postby Holly Golightly » Saturday 26 July 2003 11:04:46am

I honsetly can't see it happening either, it;s just that it wasw all so coincidental! I was thinking about those little hinds, and hten I read that line, and POW!!! I just cant' let it go now! Even though I honestly can't see it happening!

Oh well, I'm strange sometimes!!! ;)
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Postby HuffleDuck » Sunday 27 July 2003 6:53:36am

What about Lupin? Lupin should be the next in line. if Sirius is dead, the nLupin might take over the role as Harry's godfather. Lupin is also one of James's best friend... :)
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Postby Holly Golightly » Sunday 27 July 2003 2:47:07pm

Maybe thew wouldn't let him, the whole werewolf thing and all? :???:
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Postby gecko » Friday 1 August 2003 10:53:00pm

Who would have the authority to appoint a new godfather? I guess it must be the Dursleys, and they'd never do anything of the kind unless they were promised to be rid of Harry forever, which won't happen, because Harry has to go 'home' in order to be protected. Unless the OotP just threatens them into signing an order which will make either Lupin or someone else, like Snape (that would mean major fun!)! Or can someone like a minister for magic appoint a new godfather to somebody? If it's still gonna be Fudge as minister, I don't think he'll appoint Lupin, Fudge doesn't seem to keen on werewolfs.
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Postby Holly Golightly » Saturday 2 August 2003 4:27:32am

Okies, well,t here was another theory going around before, about Cornelius Fudge andLucious Malfoy, someting about their names and Pope's, or something like that.. I think that Balise Zambini came up with it..

Point is, Lucious replaces Fudge as MOM... (And yeah, I like this theory!!!) Anyways, so ei
her Lucious could appoint Harry to Snape (maybe because he finds out that Snape is a trator, and hates both Harry and Snape,and wants to make them suffer)... or someting like the Dursleys find out how much Snape loathes Harry, so decide to send him there to punish Harry, because they cant' stand to see him happy???

Okies, I know that these are far out theories, but still!!! :grin:
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