Re-Reading Philosopher's Stone: clues ???

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Re-Reading Philosopher's Stone: clues ???

Postby Albus » Friday 25 July 2003 8:16:31pm

I started re-reading the first book (really great !!! :) ) and I found out a lot of things I hadn't noticed before and that may become very important in the future. Tell me if you can add some more.
I'm sorry if sometimes I can't report the exact quote but I have the Italian version, so I can only try to translate...

1) In Chapter One, when Hagrid arrives with the motorbike, Dumbledore asks him where he had found it. The answer is the following:
"A loan, professor Dumbledore" said Hagrid "by young Sirius Black"
That's great ! Isn't it ? So the motorbike was property of Sirius and maybe it will become Harry's !!! I think we'll see the motorbike again !!!

2) In Chapter Four, when Hagrid tells Harry the whole story of Voldemort, he says that among the wizards he had killed, there were the Bones. Maybe the parents of Susan Bones ? I have read in some topic in this forum someone say that Susan may become important in the next two books. Maybe...

3) At the end of Chapter Seven, Harry has a nightmare in which Professor Raptor (sorry, I don't know if it's only the Italian name, anyway he's the DADA teacher of First Book, as a matter of fact Voldemort himself) tells him he must get to Slytherin and so on... And then he sees a green light and wakes up trembling... An anticipation of Legilimens ???

4) There is already a topic on this, I have seen: there is a passage in which JK says: "...yet he sometimes had the horrible feeling that Snape could read minds".

5) A quote from Dumledore in Chapter Seven (I try to translate):
"Ah, music ! A kind of magic which overcomes all the ones we're doing here". Maybe he will really use it in the next books ???

6) In Chapter Six, reading what is written behind Dumbledore's picture-card, Harry reads that Dumbledore is famous for having won in 1945 the famous Dark Wizard Grindelwald (that's the name in the Italian version).
Do we know anything else about this Grindelwald ?
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Postby Lizzy Bennet » Friday 25 July 2003 8:23:35pm

Fantastic post, Albus :grin: , but I really think if you copy and paste it, it would go wonderfully into a thread I've already created:

http://www.broomsticksandowls.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1732

I hope you will add this post and any future posts of this nature to my existing thread because it would be a great contribution as well as not splitting discussions. :) Thanks! :D


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Postby Albus » Friday 25 July 2003 8:23:51pm

Sorry I forgot one of the most important things: we don't yet know the circumstances in which James Potter saved Piton's life, don't we ?
Or it is a big mistake of myself ???
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Postby Albus » Friday 25 July 2003 8:30:07pm

Lizzy, I'm so sorry for creating a useless topic...
Anyway I just cut and pasted everything in the thread you said...
I hope there'll be no matter...

* Note: where I wrote "Piton" here over, well, that's the Italian name for Snape. But I think Snape sounds better... *
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Postby Lizzy Bennet » Friday 25 July 2003 8:34:13pm

Albus wrote:Lizzy, I'm so sorry for creating a useless topic...
Anyway I just cut and pasted everything in the thread you said...
I hope there'll be no matter...

* Note: where I wrote "Piton" here over, well, that's the Italian name for Snape. But I think Snape sounds better... *


Please don't feel bad!! We've all (including myself!) created redundant threads...it isn't punishable by law and no one died! :grin: Seriously, I just wanted to let you know...if you had made 50 such threads, that'd be another story. :razz: But seriously, don't worry about it...great post, again :), and glad you added it to the other thread! :D


Happy posting! :)
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Postby Sacred Guardian » Friday 25 July 2003 8:43:22pm

no, we don't know anyging else about gridewald that i know of, but it sounds german, so i was thinking that it wad some relation to WWII, in that wizards were involved in their own way
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Postby Meg Boyd » Tuesday 29 July 2003 3:04:33am

When I re-read Philosopher's Stone this week I noticed forshadowings too!

Like when Hagrid is talking to Bane in the forest about the dead unicorns, Bane is distracted on how Mars is extremely bright that night...and if I am right Firenze while teaching Divination in Book 5, tells them how Mars has been getting brighter, showing of a war the wizards would be having...the night when Bane told of Mars' brightness, Voldemort made his first step to get life back...

In the same scene, Bane also says "Innocent are the first victims"...
Bertha, Frank, and Cedric were all innocent first victims in Voldemorts return to power...

just a bit of thinkage for your noodle...
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Postby Lizzy Bennet » Tuesday 29 July 2003 3:33:35am

I really don't mean to sound at all rude, but someone needs to close this thread, please...as I pointed out, to Albus, there is another thread on this topic (just scroll up to see what I wrote :)). :) It's not that I don't think it's a GREAT topic, it's just that there is discussion of this nature going on elsewhere. :) Thanks everyone! :)


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