Sirius Black - Big Bad Slytherin Extrodinare

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Sirius Black - Big Bad Slytherin Extrodinare

Postby Devinci » Saturday 26 July 2003 1:53:50am

I was, up late one night, doing the normal things, aka looking up Harry Potter Trivia! When I read one post on random Harry Potter site number 17, that almost made me think...They were discussing what house Sirius was in...and many many of the people who had posted, thought Sirius (the darling man...) Was in Slytherin...they had quite an elaborate story behind it and all...about how James was this and therefor Sirius did this and made himself do this and therefor he was in Slytherin (not those exact words...persay)

Anyway, I just...wanted to see your take on the subject...because it quite frankly upset me

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Postby redhead2531 » Saturday 26 July 2003 2:33:30am

I've always thought that Sirius was in Gryffindor, I mean that is how Prongs, Moony, Padfoot and Wormtail :mad: spent all their time together.
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Postby Meg Boyd » Saturday 26 July 2003 3:16:26am

So...not be rude or anything but do you mind elaborating more on why Sirius was in slytherin??? I would really like to know! Thanks!!! :D
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Postby HuffleDuck » Saturday 26 July 2003 7:21:44am

Sirius is definitely not in Slytherin. redhead was right. Most of the best friend in school are in the same house. If Sirius was in Slytherin, he and James would definitely be enemy just like Snape for Snape is in Slytherin. All the Maurader are in the same house. This one im pretty sure about it.
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Postby highsorcerer » Saturday 26 July 2003 8:38:53am

JKR has never said what house the original Mauraders were in, but film one showed James in Gryffindor (as seeker), and since she had some creative control, she probably could have stopped it if it conflicted with her backstory.

Still, while James, Sirius, and Remus were brave enough to be in Gryffindor, Peter was not. He was a coward who hid behind strong friends. However, while Sirius was pure-blood (and thus, a Slytherin possibilty), every indication is that he hated his family and rejected the arrogance of pure-blood.

James and Sirius WERE the best in their class, and probably would qualify for Ravenclaw, if offered by the sorting hat. However, as indicated by no less than Dumbledore, it's more of wizards temperament than his abilities that make him what he is. Harry rejected Slytherin because he was opposed to dark wizards and all they stood for. Hermoine rejected Ravenclaw, despite her aptidue, because the hat saw bravery in her. Even Neville, who seemed a misfit in Gryffindor was proved to have been sorted right, because when push came to shove (and despite Malfoy's comments), he has stood up to evil. He knew what he was getting into when he joined Harry to confront the death eaters in general and Bellatrix Lestrange in particular. I really hope that showdown time, he gets to take her out by himself. His grandmother would be proud.
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Postby Holly Golightly » Saturday 26 July 2003 12:03:00pm

I'm a bit confused with the whole Marauders at school period...:(

At first, Hagrid tells harry that is parents were head boy and girl, but hten James is not made a prefect? Then it does seem that they would all have to have bene in the same house, as firstly, they are all close friends, and most close friends at Hogwartsa re inteh same house, and that Sirius said that DD made Lupinthe prefect.... seeems like the choice thus had to be between the three or four of them? No?

And then, also, how did Petigrew manage to make it into Griffindor?? He's hardly brave?

Totally confusing!
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Postby Devinci » Saturday 26 July 2003 8:27:19pm

Marauder's gang in Slytherin, Harry not the descendant!

I can't believe people haven't thought about this, but it seems pretty obvious. Doesn't it?

We all realize that Harry's father James was in Slytherin right? OK, now your probably wondering, how in the world I've gotten to that conclusion, because we really don't know much about either of Harry's parents, but we now have just enough info about Sirius to pull it off.

"All wizards which went bad were in Slytherin."

If this is true than Sirius Black was in Slytherin. When Hagrid said the above quote, he still though that Sirius was a dark wizard, so Sirius must have been in Slytherin.Your probably thinking I've gone bonkers, but I have some proof, thanks to the 5th book:

When Harry stayed at Sirius house, he saw his family tree and he's related to the Malfoys,Lestrange's and his brother who was also a death eater!

On page 495 in OOTP, Phineas Nigellus(Sirius' great-great grandfather) said to Harry, "We Slytherins...". Obliviously, Sirius comes from a long line of Slytherins. From all the relatives that we know of, it looks like they're all in Slytherin. Tonks might be an exception,but she has a muggle dad, so that's different.

Now, just because Sirius comes from a long line of Slytherins, doesn't mean that he necessarily has to be in Slytherin, but it seems to me that you basically come from the line of your parents.

Sirius said that his picture was taken off the wall when he was 16, because he ran away from home, making him a disgrace to the family. I would think, that if you came from a family of all Slytherins, you would be a disgrace if you were in any house BUT Slytherin.

Now, what does this have to do with James? Well, that's what I'm about to show you!

Sirius Black is James Potter's best friend. I would think that best friends which are always together would be in the same house. I mean, most people wouldn't have best friends in a different house, because they wouldn't see each other very often. If they were always together they would probably be in the same classes. In order to be in all the same classes they must be in the same house.

Therefore, if Sirius was in Slytherin so must have James. James Potter was in Slytherin.

Therefore Harry can't be related to Gryffindor because his mom was muggle born. I should hope that if his father had Gryffindor blood, he would be in Gryffindor. Following this theory, Lupin and Pettigrew would have been in Slytherin. Pettigrew is definitely a Slytherin, being a deatheater and all, which gives you more proof.



Thats what the site said...that was their post. I don't really...understand it all, but hey, you asked...so here it is!

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Postby Meg Boyd » Saturday 26 July 2003 10:25:16pm

eh, I still don't believe it
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Postby Hermione Weasley » Saturday 26 July 2003 11:14:31pm

yea i always thought that sirius and the rest of the gang were in Gryffindor thats how they had all the same classes at the same time and all that. I always thought it was given they were in Gryffindor together.
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Postby HuffleDuck » Sunday 27 July 2003 6:34:05am

yup, i wont believe or accept that all of them are not in the same house. beat me to death and i wont still believe it. :evil:

About Peter in Gryffindor....probably back then he's little brave and a little loyal to his friends. :-?
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Postby Holly Golightly » Sunday 27 July 2003 2:51:46pm

Hrmm, okies, it;s a well tough of theory, but I can't accept that Harry's dad could ahve been a Slytherin, and especially that no one woud ahve told him by now?
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Postby Hermy » Friday 1 August 2003 2:43:45pm

HuffleDuck wrote:
About Peter in Gryffindor....probably back then he's little brave and a little loyal to his friends. :-?


Do they have to display these qualities at school?
Remember that Harry has saved Peter's life, and DD said it would pay off in the end. I wouldn't be surprised if Peter showed his brave side at the end of the final book and helped Harry defeat Voldemort, or saved Harry's life from Voldemort and got blown up as everyone thought he had before.
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Postby Meg Boyd » Friday 1 August 2003 2:50:13pm

Hermy wrote:Do they have to display these qualities at school?
Remember that Harry has saved Peter's life, and DD said it would pay off in the end. I wouldn't be surprised if Peter showed his brave side at the end of the final book and helped Harry defeat Voldemort, or saved Harry's life from Voldemort and got blown up as everyone thought he had before.


I don't think they have to show these qualities during there 7 years in Hogwarts...if the Sorting Hat can tell that you will have some remarkable bravery or loyality (or whatever quality) in sometime in your life, then you will be in Gryffindor (or whatever quality based house)...

peter wil probably save harry's life in some point in time, and end being loyal to the order...
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Postby Eol » Friday 8 August 2003 5:42:36pm

I just don't think that James and Sirius would become such huge enemies with somebody else in there own house. There would definately be emnity between houses, and some small arguments with people in there own house. However, each house has people with the same characteristics in them-- there wouldn't be any serious malice like that which exists between James/Sirius and Snape. They can't have been in the same house. James was NOT in Slytherin
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Postby Dink Meeker » Friday 8 August 2003 5:59:15pm

Don't forget that the Sorting Hat wanted to place Harry in Slytherin, Gryffidor was the second choice.

In the books (excluding the movies) there's nothing that indicates which house the Marauders were in. The fact that James and Lily thwarted Voldemort 3 times would indicate a talent in the dark arts. Is this not a characteristic of Slytherins?

Remember that Slytherin is not neccesarily the house of evil. Malfoy just makes it seem that way.
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