Allusions

[Hermione]

I was thinking about this earlier (sorry if it's been mentioned before), but in Book 4, Rowling mentions the Room of Requirement at the Yule Ball, when Dumbledore says that he found a room full of chamber pots in the middle of the night.

"Only this morning, for instance, I took a wrong turning on the way to the bathroom and found myself in a beautifully proportioned room I have never seen before, containing a really rather magnificent collection of chamber pots. When I went back to investigate more closely, I discovered that the room had vanished. But I must keep an eye out for it. Possibly it is only accessible at five-thirty in the morning. Or it may only appear at the quarter moon- or when the seeker has an exceptionally full bladder."

Do you think there are any earlier references that would've clued us in to something in Book 5?

I think at some point in Book 1, she also mentions that Snape seems to have the horrible ability of reading minds . . .

[gecko]

Yeah there's probably loads of allusions spread through the books!

Here's a topic in the book5discussion section about the mindreading thingie
http://www.broomsticksandowls.com/forum ... php?t=1490 !

[Colin]

Snape would have no trouble reading Harry's mind:) Harry is constantly breaking the rules and Snape knows it.

Socks!

[Holly Golightly]

Yeah, but Harry would know about it...
Remember when Snape was performint Legim... on Harry so that Harry could pratice Oclem... ( I just cannot spell those two!) Harry could see and feel the things that Snape was seeing in his memory!

So Snape woudlnt' read people's minds without them knowing, no?

[Eol]

Snape just uses Leglimens to actively attack Harry's mind. I'm guessing that, like Voldy and Dumbledore, he can just tell when somebody's lying

[Gwared]

Snape has needed to use a wand in all his legimens attacks on Harry...prehaps that is the only way to actively seek out specifics whereas naturaly Snape can read emotions...like hate (Harry) and fear (Neville).

[highsorcerer]

But Snape isn't very good at legimency. He accussed Harry of many things he didn't do (breaking into his office to steal potion ingrediants), entering the triward tournament. So, in the end, Snape has to admit to another failing of his.

[Holly Golightly]

Well,that's not necessarily ture... Snape didnt' really try to use Legimency to find out if Harry did all those things. He would have just though, well, Harry's always breaking the rules, and I hate Harry, so it must have been him who broke into my office. You remember at school when teachers pick on you just because they hated you, so if somethign went wrong it was always our fault,even ifyou had nothing to do with it??? (hrmm, actually, maybe it was jsut me that all the teachers hated!!! )

[Gower]

I think it is likely that Snape is good at both occlumency and legimens. If he is skilled at legimens then maybe that helps him find out what Voldemort is up to.

[Holly Golightly]

Well, my problem with that is when he was preforming Legimintis (but I cant' spell) on Harry, Harry knew about it. So how could Snape do it to Voldie if Voldie knew that it was happening?

I would have guessed that Snape was using Occlemency to stop Voldie seeing wether he was lying or not when Snape was spying on Voldie for DD...

[Gower]

Well, my problem with that is when he was preforming Legimintis (but I cant' spell) on Harry, Harry knew about it. So how could Snape do it to Voldie if Voldie knew that it was happening?

I would have guessed that Snape was using Occlemency to stop Voldie seeing wether he was lying or not when Snape was spying on Voldie for DD...

You can do legimins on someone without them knowing. In book 4 for example, at the start, Voldemort knows when wormtail is lying to him.

[Holly Golightly]

Okies, this naturally, isn't necessarily correct, just he way I understood it. With Legem(???) they can tell if someone is lying or not without the other person knowing what's going on, but to find memories etc, like Snape was doing to Harry, the other person would know about it.

I kinda jsut always understood it that way???

[Colin]

Voldemort uses this ability all the time, but I am sure Harry has the ability also. Transferrence of powers.

What else can Harry do?

[Gower]

Okies, this naturally, isn't necessarily correct, just he way I understood it. With Legem(???) they can tell if someone is lying or not without the other person knowing what's going on, but to find memories etc, like Snape was doing to Harry, the other person would know about it.

I kinda jsut always understood it that way???

Yes this is correct. So if snape was good at legimens he could just go up to some death eater and say are you planning this..... then he would know the truth because he could tell whether or not the death eater tells him the truth.

[Holly Golightly]

Good point there Gower, I hadnt't reammy though of that!