Broomsticks And Owls

by **jarvan49** » Tuesday 13 January 2004 10:41:24pm

what are your theories on how elves do magic? do they need wands? didn't dobby do magic without a wand in CoS?

by **Gower** » Tuesday 13 January 2004 10:51:16pm

I think elves can do powerful magic without wands, but they need their masters permission before they can use it. At least that's what it is for house elves. Are there other kinds of elves that aren't enslaved?

by **choki** » Wednesday 14 January 2004 9:54:30am

wild elves? There must be loads of untamed elves out there since there are giants, trolls...perhaps house elves are a classification. There are plenty of elves out there! That is what I think :grin:

I guess elves are magical being themselves so they can do magic without wand. Wizards, too, can also do magic without wand. Harry made the glass wall disappeared without wand.

by **Herminny** » Thursday 22 January 2004 12:14:03pm

Maybe they need the wand for spells Wizzards have invented. If elves were around before or not in contact with wizzards they would have their own brand of magic

by **Jotomicron** » Thursday 22 January 2004 6:37:52pm

I think magic populates every magical being, Humans, Creatures and Ex-Beings. So, elves, being magical creatures, can perform some charms and othe things (remeber, the disappear if they want, not using a wand).

I think wizards can also perform magic without the wand (even if it is something like imperius curse). The function of the wand is to make the wizard easier to focus the object he (or she) pretends to enchant.

by **Athena Appleton** » Thursday 29 January 2004 7:15:47pm

How's Dobby popping in and out of Hogwarts with a loud CRACK! if you can't apperate or dissapperate within Hogwarts?

by **Jotomicron** » Monday 2 February 2004 8:11:16pm

Athena Appleton wrote:How's Dobby popping in and out of Hogwarts with a loud CRACK! if you can't apperate or dissapperate within Hogwarts?

I think that, when Hogwarts were made, they had so little respect for elves that they didn't even try to block elf magic. Therefore, elves can apparate and disaparate from and within Hogwarts.

by **Athena Appleton** » Monday 2 February 2004 8:32:01pm

oh that is an excellent idea! :eek:

by **Nobby** » Monday 16 February 2004 5:53:05pm

Brill idea Jotomicron! i think that elves have their own magic too! Elves/order/ministry vs voldie and co

by **Athena Appleton** » Monday 16 February 2004 7:41:56pm

Nobby wrote:Brill idea Jotomicron! i think that elves have their own magic too! Elves/order/ministry vs voldie and co

here's a kink to throw in your chain... a little snotrag called Kreacher.

by **Nobby** » Monday 16 February 2004 7:47:35pm

theres always one little git that ruins the trend! Hopefully kreacher will snuff it soon. Dobby to kill kreacher :evil:

by **Athena Appleton** » Monday 16 February 2004 11:48:58pm

I think we learned a very important lesson in book 5 about elves. So far, the elves we've come across are of the Dobby mindset: inherantly (sp?) good. Even Winky, who did some not-so-smart things, was justified, and was most likely a "good elf". But Kreacher showed us that elves, unlike dementors or giants, are likely to be good or bad, just like humans. I just meant by saying what I did that to clump them (elves) along with the good guys versus voldy and the bad guys is wrong. that's like saying, "humans vs. voldy" because voldy's got humans in his camp.

by **Nobby** » Tuesday 17 February 2004 6:12:06pm

Mayb Hogwarts elves then! they surely must do wot their master dumbledore tells them to do!

by **Athena Appleton** » Tuesday 17 February 2004 7:58:30pm

*speaks very slowly* I agree that some elves will be on the good side, and that some elves will be on the bad side. That was the purpose of my last post.

by **Jotomicron** » Tuesday 17 February 2004 8:02:44pm

That's also what I think... Nevertheless, they tend to be influenced by his/her masters' personality (kreacher is, but dobby isn't...)

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