the boggart

A place to discuss your Harry Potter theories. Are there hidden secrets and conspiracies? What will happen in future plots? The truth may be in here!

Moderators: Nightcrawler, Scarlet Lioness, FawkesthePhoenix, Lone_Buck, paintballdecoy

the boggart

Postby Athena Appleton » Thursday 25 March 2004 7:35:07am

there's a lot of speculation about what Hermione's boggart would have been in the first DADA class with Lupin, but this thread isn't necessarily for that... it's more along the lines of why did the boggart turn into different things for the different students...

Why did Neville, who in GoF is completely terrified of the Cruciatus Curse, fear a mean teacher? I mean, I understand he's intimidated, but I just find it odd that his greatest fear is Snape.

Why did Dean see a severed hand? We know he's good at art, is it because he loves art and would hate to lose his own hand? I find it odd that his greatest fear is a severed hand and a severed hand is one of the key ingredients necessary to bring Voldemort back to life...

The others: the banshee, the mummy... I can see, assuming they haven't had anything in their lives to really and truly fear, they fear the unknown monsters that children usually fear... but the Snape boggart and the hand boggart baffle me...
User avatar
Athena Appleton
Hogwarts Librarian, Headmistress of the Little Wizards Academy and Kisser of Boo-boos
 
Posts: 2267
Joined: Sunday 25 January 2004 6:42:54am
Location: Easin' down the yellow brick road....

Postby Aberforth » Thursday 25 March 2004 3:04:49pm

With Neville, he is really intimidated and scared of Snape, and that is an every day thing for him. He only bcomes more into the cruciatus thing later - when they learn about it and the death eaters responsible for his parents' incapacitation escape. Until this happens, he can put those issues to one side.

The hand - I don't know. Its just creepy, like "Thing" in The Addams Family.
User avatar
Aberforth
Hogs Head Bartender
 
Posts: 301
Joined: Tuesday 17 February 2004 5:10:14pm
Location: Hogs Head, Hogsmeade

Postby Jotomicron » Thursday 25 March 2004 5:49:27pm

Well, I guess the boggart would assume the thing you mostly fear AT THE MOMENT. I mean, we know Mrs Weasley fear for her family every so often, but would she always see dead Ron, Arthur and Co.??

And I think that the thing that most frighten Neville in school is Snape. Now: does he "forget" abouth evil when he's there? Or does he know is safe from DE??
Jotomicron
Producer of Happiness and Mysterious Metamorphmagus
 
Posts: 3384
Joined: Wednesday 10 September 2003 1:37:07am

Postby Nobby » Thursday 25 March 2004 6:03:58pm

i agree with Joto. i think that people's fears change and so does your boggart respectively! with neville, i think in the book the had just met snape, probably bringing his fear for snape to the surface. so naturally his boggart was snape. however, i think that is now probably bellatrix lestrange as he has met her and can fear her 'properly'
User avatar
Nobby
Hufflepuff Prefect and The Half Blood Prince
 
Posts: 2156
Joined: Sunday 15 February 2004 2:01:34pm
Location: Having dinners with the ewoks

Postby Alice I » Thursday 25 March 2004 8:24:40pm

Yes Nobby and Joto
I agree with that.
What ever Nevilles bogart was in third year I would be willing to bet all the gold in my Gringott's vault that if he came across a boggart now it wouldn't be Snape
User avatar
Alice I
Fully Qualified Wizard
 
Posts: 1585
Joined: Thursday 4 March 2004 5:13:01pm

Postby Ferrus » Thursday 25 March 2004 9:40:02pm

I always thought of the severed hand as another of the "stereotipical" terror movie monsters, like the banshee and the mummy.

I also agree on the point that ones worts fear changes, Harry´s boggart would certainly not be a dementor before he knew dementors existed...
User avatar
Ferrus
Fully Qualified Wizard
 
Posts: 1066
Joined: Sunday 18 January 2004 1:50:04pm
Location: Returned from the Land of Temporal Oblivion

Postby paintballdecoy » Thursday 25 March 2004 10:13:28pm

The hand theory is very interesting, but I don't think it anything directly connected to Voldemort. It might have been hinty towards it, but dean doesn't have any ties to VOldemort, yet!!!

Your fear must change, becuase Mrs Weasly would have feared her family dieing when she was a kid while growing up
User avatar
paintballdecoy
Chief Paintball Wizard, Theory Master and Voldemort Spy
 
Posts: 295
Joined: Saturday 28 February 2004 3:01:53am

Postby Athena Appleton » Friday 26 March 2004 9:28:53pm

lol okay, that makes sense, joto...

about the hand, thing... yeah, I think it *could* be one of the stereotypical horror movie things, but I just thought it odd that the student who is great with drawing would see a severed hand... AND that the severed hand is what brought Voldy back... but I don't think there's a Dean-Voldemort connection... just, like, a severed hand thrown in there to start giving hints. She does that a lot.

to whoever asked if Mrs. Weasley would always have a dead family member boggart... I have two little kids, and I think about 90% of the time, I would see a dead Cameron boggart or dead Colin boggart... and I would DEFINATELY see that if I were living in the kind of situation Molly's in at the moment.
User avatar
Athena Appleton
Hogwarts Librarian, Headmistress of the Little Wizards Academy and Kisser of Boo-boos
 
Posts: 2267
Joined: Sunday 25 January 2004 6:42:54am
Location: Easin' down the yellow brick road....

Postby Ferrus » Saturday 27 March 2004 12:14:57pm

Well, Dean might has a subconcious fear for losing his hand and it reflects itslef in severed hand, maybe. But still I think the hand come from the old B&W horror movie repertoir...
User avatar
Ferrus
Fully Qualified Wizard
 
Posts: 1066
Joined: Sunday 18 January 2004 1:50:04pm
Location: Returned from the Land of Temporal Oblivion

Postby Athena Appleton » Saturday 27 March 2004 2:53:14pm

yeah, you're probably right...
User avatar
Athena Appleton
Hogwarts Librarian, Headmistress of the Little Wizards Academy and Kisser of Boo-boos
 
Posts: 2267
Joined: Sunday 25 January 2004 6:42:54am
Location: Easin' down the yellow brick road....

Postby Alice I » Saturday 27 March 2004 4:46:35pm

Athena Appleton wrote:lol okay, that makes sense, joto...

to whoever asked if Mrs. Weasley would always have a dead family member boggart... I have two little kids, and I think about 90% of the time, I would see a dead Cameron boggart or dead Colin boggart... and I would DEFINATELY see that if I were living in the kind of situation Molly's in at the moment.


Big Ditto!

I have two girls and If anything were to happen to them my world would end (Really) so that would definatly be my biggest fear sustained through out my life.
User avatar
Alice I
Fully Qualified Wizard
 
Posts: 1585
Joined: Thursday 4 March 2004 5:13:01pm

Postby AngelicS_89 » Sunday 28 March 2004 5:32:16pm

I agree with joto and nobby for the changing boggart theory and as for Molly,defenetly her boggart at all time,I think,would be or Arthur or one of the kids death...
User avatar
AngelicS_89
Keeper of Smiles and Happiness
 
Posts: 1255
Joined: Wednesday 24 December 2003 7:04:02pm
Location: heaven

Postby Ferrus » Sunday 28 March 2004 8:14:08pm

I agree with all the above, A persons Boggart is fixed, until he/she encounters something scarier.
User avatar
Ferrus
Fully Qualified Wizard
 
Posts: 1066
Joined: Sunday 18 January 2004 1:50:04pm
Location: Returned from the Land of Temporal Oblivion

Postby Athena Appleton » Sunday 28 March 2004 9:07:57pm

does the boggart turn into what you admit is your greatest fear, even if it's not really?

I know that sounds weird, but what if Seamus, who saw a banshee when he was faced with the boggart in third year, were to develop a new fear. But when he's faced with a boggart again, he's scared that he'll see a banshee, like the memory of it being the greatest fear when he was 13 makes him fear it again, even if banshees aren't what he's most scared of at 16...
User avatar
Athena Appleton
Hogwarts Librarian, Headmistress of the Little Wizards Academy and Kisser of Boo-boos
 
Posts: 2267
Joined: Sunday 25 January 2004 6:42:54am
Location: Easin' down the yellow brick road....

Postby Evil Wizard Petting Zoo » Sunday 28 March 2004 9:15:45pm

I think one of the books says that the boggart will turn into what it thinks will scare you most. So it wouldn't matter if you admitted it or not. I wonder why everyone's boggart wasn't Voldemort?
User avatar
Evil Wizard Petting Zoo
Fully Qualified Wizard
 
Posts: 330
Joined: Friday 19 March 2004 10:52:56pm
Location: Snape's Tea Room

Next

Return to Theories

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests

cron