Harry's dream (part II)

[Jotomicron]

(I started it on another topic, but it was getting really long... Here goes the continuation)

Open your copy of "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer(sp) Stone" (Or Philosopher Stone) in he last page of chapter VII. (Funny: in the portuguese version, it's on page 111!) Now, read Harry's dream.

In the end of the dream, Malfoy turns into Snape and there is a green light. The Malfoy part could mean Malfoy'll be the next potions teacher, but can also mean he is going to act as Snape: first, join the DE and then realise he should be in the good side. OR... Malfoy can get in the bad side and then act like Snape: spying on the good guys!

What do you think?

[Evil Wizard Petting Zoo]

Hmm...The Malfoy-Snape thing is a good spot! But if Malfoy does go DE I don't think he'd ever go to the good side. He seems kind of a static character.

I'm gonna get unlazy soon and actually go and read it.

[Athena Appleton]

If you look at the dream from Harry's point of view, and what Harry knows and doesn't know at this point, the Draco turning into Snape makes a little more sense... Harry thinks Snape is evil. Therefore, I don't think it's a stretch to have a dream that Draco turns into Snape (but Harry doesn't know yet that Snape isn't as evil as he thinks he is).

Do you have any memories that you think are memories, but they could be dreams or skewed perceptions of memories? Like, I clearly remember Glinda, the good witch of the North, being at my great-grandfather's bedside as a small child... That is obviously a skewed perception of real events (my great-grandfather had a nurse with wavy blond hair and she was wearing a pink shirt... there's a picture and she's barely in it). Harry remembers a flash of green light from the "car crash" that killed his parents, but why is there a green light there? Later, he finds out he actually remembered it exactly, but the car crash story, along with the flash of green light, didn't exactly add up until he finds out James and Lily didn't die in a car crash... maybe this dream is the first time he kind of associates the flash of green light with Voldemort and his parents deaths? I mean, it's not that hard to imagine that, after Hagrid tells him that James and Lily never died in a car crash, that he would think that the flash of green light was just a dream or something... I'm confusing myself...

[sea-plunder]

i don't think malfoy will become the next potions teacher..or become a potions teacher because i just cannot see him in that position . i imagine him in some other job except teaching...i.e buying himself into a quidditch team

[Alice I]

I'll bet that Malfoy (Draco) winds up dead or in Azkaban. He is a slimy little git and no good will come to him.
Just my opinion.

[pandora315]

I always thought the dream might be an indication that Snape isn't really on the side of good. Like Malfoy is evil, Snape is evil, Voldy is evil, and then one of the kills somebody- the flash of green light. Or maybe when Drace tell harry that "he's dead" at the end of book 5 he really means it and he tries to lure Harry into some trap where Snape intervenes on Harrys before and kills Malfoy. In any case I think it means sometime in the future books someone will die while Harry and Snape are both present.

[AngelicS_89]

I would like to back up the theory that Malfoy will be bad fopr awhile and than like Snape stand on the side of good,but,on another point of view,that green light is something bad...But maybe,that means that LV will kill Snape,or maybe Malfoy(he'll find out their good...)

[Athena Appleton]

Two things I just don't think I can be convinced of: that Snape is really a bad guy, and that Malfoy will turn to a good guy.

[Emma'I'm a real witch']

I agree with Athena, I think it would just be too cliche for Snape to be a bad guy. He is just a not nice good guy, look at when Harry was with Umbridge, he immediately tried to find out what had really happened to Sirius.
And as for Malfoy, usually with bad guys in most story's they have turned bad because they have been hurt in the past and show that they do really have a heart somewhere. I don't see any of this in Malfoy at all, he is just malicious.

[Athena Appleton]

I really like what J.K. Rowling had to say about Malfoy on a recent chat... actually, it was talking about Hermione and Malfoy getting together... she said that the reason most people want to believe that Malfoy will turn good is really because everyone loves Tom Felton. Sure, he plays a wonderful bad guy, but since he's so darn cute, people want to see him turn out to not be as bad as he seems like he is, but in the books, Tom Felton isn't Malfoy, and I don't think she has any plans to make Malfoy convert to goodism.

[Alice I]

I read that interview as well and I have to agree with Athena.

JKR made it kind of clear that Malfoy is a bad guy through and through and she did say something like:

"Malfoy is Not Tom"

[pandora315]

Someone said somewhere on here that people turn bad because they've been hurt before or something like that. I think Malfoy has been hurt before, as a mattor of fact he's been hurt by his father which is a running theme throughout the book- Voldy turned evil presummably because of his father, Crouch turned evil because of his father, Hagrid even says once or twice that family is a really important factor in your life and how you turn out. Malfoys father isn't all that nice to him and his mother doesn't seem all that intersted in anything either. I just think Malfoy does have the potential to be semi-decent- after all Sirius and Lupin say that you can't judge what a man will become based on his 15 year old self. Not only that but Malfoy appears intelligent, funny, and attractive-I can't see him hanging out with the likes of Crabbe and Goyle for the rest of his life.

[Alice I]

Malfoy appears intelligent, funny, and attractive-I can't see him hanging out with the likes of Crabbe and Goyle for the rest of his life.

Crabbe and Goyle are definatly not his equals in any respect but they do protect him and Malfoy has proven himself to be a coward. He may have intellegence but he is obviously unsure of himself as he surrounds himself with brainless thugs that he can lord over and show his superiority. I think that Malfoy is an insecure (because of daddy), cowardly, unhappy little boy and while he may loose his sidekicks someday I feel that he will replace them with others that he can feel superior to.

[Athena Appleton]

I don't see that Malfoy's dad is mistreating him or hurting him... the only suggestion of that is in Borgin's shop, but it was more the way any father who expects a lot out of their son to behave... In general, I think Malfoy's a pampered, spoiled brat who's incredibly proud of who his father is.

In the movie, Jason Isaacs played Mr. Malfoy up to be cruel to Draco to gain Draco some sympathy, he even says that himself on the dvd extras, but in the book, it's not necessarily that way.

[pandora315]

yes, I've listented to the interview also and he says he read the books and saw the character as a cruel domineering father, but thats the way I interpreted him anyway before the movie came out. I mean when Sirius says to "look at the way he[Crouch] treats his servants and you'll get an idea of the kind of man he is" isn't it even worse if you see Lucious being that way toward his own son? I'm not saying he hits him or anything like that but emotional abuse is often worse. I also found it interested that when harry says "you know that look your mother has, like she's got dung under her nose..." (GoF Ch. 13) Draco responds by going pink. People go pink when their embarrassed, why would he be embarrassed unless there was some truth to what Harry said? I just think that theres hope yet for Draco since DD says its your choices that make you what you are, he's got time to make some better choices just like Percy has smoe time to make some better choices.

(Although as a side note- I might be wrong but I think it was Athena that said in all the ch. 13's theres a brief mention of the bad guy and I thought this was such a great spot and so facinating that I went back and read through all the Ch. 13's. I realised that yes its true for PS, CoS, and GoF, but in PoA and OotP there really arn't any "Bad Guys" as such. But the one person who does appear in every ch. 13 is Draco Malfoy.....)