Broomsticks And Owls

by **zledm007** » Wednesday 9 July 2003 6:55:12pm

What if, while fighting Tom Riddle in the Chamber of Secrets, Fawkes hadn't come with the sorting hat and harry was all alone? Would he have survived? Would he have saved Ginny? Did he really need the sorting hat and Gryffindor's sword at all? Would something else have come to Harry's aide? If so, what would it have been? :???:

by **Ju-DedoH** » Wednesday 9 July 2003 7:06:43pm

ah i think something would have happened, the problem is to say why would be a spoiler ...

by **zledm007** » Wednesday 9 July 2003 7:08:35pm

thanks for the consideration. hold your thought until paul lifts the book 5 cnesor thing. i'm very interested to hear it.

by **Ju-DedoH** » Wednesday 9 July 2003 7:10:17pm

well give a look in the theories, look around th pro... you'll know what if you've read the 5th

by **zledm007** » Wednesday 9 July 2003 7:19:51pm

yeah, i've read it, but can't figure out what you're talking about. sorry.

by **Mint** » Wednesday 9 July 2003 8:06:52pm

LOL - just pm him Ju-De (Im not really sure what you are talking about either.)

Ok - I think he would NOT survive.

Why? Because he was not ready to handle such a fight by himself. In fact Im pretty sure he will need all the help he can get to leave to book 7 :grin:

Every year he is learning new stuff that would makes him stronger and stronger.

by **Ju-DedoH** » Wednesday 9 July 2003 8:11:07pm

I'm sorry, I was just missing the point ... Tomm Riddle is VD ! so he was fighting against VD. sorry, so maybe he would have died, what else could have happened ? but i get the feeling that fawkes was sent by DD somehow.

by **Blaise Zabini** » Thursday 10 July 2003 11:02:24pm

Erm, VD? Ack, to many HP acronyms to remember!

Anyway, I do agree that it would be quite miraculous if Harry were to escape without the help of Fawkes. I mean, it would have been a near-impossibility for him to battle the snake without once opening his eyes (so as to avoid being petrified.) Furthermore, were he, by some random act of good will, to survive, there's still the question of getting out of the chamber. Oh, and without the sword, dear Harry was weaponless. I can't really see a way out of this one for him without any help!

by **han lin** » Sunday 13 July 2003 11:14:10pm

and lets not forget his 'near death experience' he would have died if fawkes hadn't appeared. or someone with bottled phoenix tears

by **Ju-DedoH** » Monday 14 July 2003 9:20:43pm

well that could have been mended after like in pomfrey's ward

by **Mint** » Monday 14 July 2003 9:23:14pm

no - noone would find him in time. And he would be dead waaay before that.

X_X

by **Ju-DedoH** » Monday 14 July 2003 9:27:49pm

yes (still not found my book, I miss out details sorry .... hope to find it soon indeed)

by **Meg Boyd** » Monday 14 July 2003 11:54:51pm

Personally, I don't think Harry could have survived with out the sorting hat and fawkes...however, I have think that no matter what Harry would have those things to help him...again a book five reference would be handy. But still, Harry would not be Harry with out his fierce belief in DD, and that's what brought Fawkes and co to his aid. No Harry could not have survived with out the tools, but it was Harry's character and stealth that brought the tools to him, so in essence it really was Harry to fought off Tom Riddle (aka Lord Voldy)

by **Barry Trotter** » Monday 14 July 2003 11:58:01pm

very well rounded arguement
i agree with that, the essance that makes harry harry is partially his loyalty and that is what brought him the stuff!

by **Liquid Ice** » Monday 1 September 2003 9:04:59pm

Harry would probably have just died, and so would Ginny.

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