Draco

[Tanuki]

I don't think he's liable to become an auror or changeh is opinion on muggles. The only change I see him doing is turning against Voldermort

[Beluka]

no auror, no, no, no, for sure, i've never said that. and maybe i'm with you in that he won't change his opinion on muggles, but turning against voldemort would be something already maybe he could change his mind in what refers to "half-bloods"...

[crystallised_pineapple]

i don't think he minds half bloods nearly as much as 'mudbloods' as he never seems to insult harry for it much... and in the PS/SS he wanted harry as a friend... although the fact that he was 'the famous harry potter' probably had something to do with it...

maybe in the last book he will begin to realise the mercy and kindness of the order and maybe it could at change him a little... just to tolerate others would be a start...

[Anna Black]

Draco...what a touchy subject. He is a mean-spirited, spoiled little brat. He has done everything he could to make Harry suffer. But, that doesn't mean that he is unable to recognize how serious the situation is now and to turn away from LV. I have high hopes for Draco. I don't see him joining the Order, but I can imagine him dropping little pieces of info for Harry to pick up, or more likely, making a split-second decision to help Harry in the final showdown against LV.

Draco was raised by Lucius Malfoy. That has got to do some damage. Draco didn't have the opportunity to decide for himself about prejudices against Muggle-borns. He was obviously fed all those prejudices before he ever stepped into Hogwarts. He was taught that he was better than anyone else and only had a self-serving, vindictive, evil father to learn from. (We don't know too much about Narcissa except that she shared those prejudices.) He had big shoes to fill when he did arrive at Hogwarts and became the unofficial leader of Slytherin.

Yes, your family history doesn't have everything to do with the choices you make. But, perhaps, up until Draco received orders from LV and was faced with actually doing despicable evil, he was living in a child's world. He hadn't had to be mature, hadn't had to deal with anything serious. It WAS all pranks and name-calling. When Draco was working for LV, he did seem to be over his head. I believe that he didn't realize fully what he was getting himself into. How serious the reprecussions would be. He couldn't kill DD. He felt so bad about what he was doing that he cried to Myrtle. That is where he IS different from his father. That is where there is potential for good.

[Tanuki]

I do agree with Anna black, though I still believe the little snot is more liable to be a dark wizard than to help anyone but himself. He may not work for Voldermort, but I definitely believe he'll stick with Snape's faction when the truth comes out

[crystallised_pineapple]

he probably will feel he has no choice but to stick with snape... and snape did help and protect him so he will perhapsfeel some loyalty towards him??

i'm not sure about how he will turn out, i really don't think he will join the order, but maybe now he realises the extent of what being a DE is he will simply be a sort of in between person... trying to keep out of it as much as he can

[SunsetG|rl]

In HBP I finally saw Draco becoming more of a full charachter. Until now I felt like he was just an outline, no filling. He prooved to be human, as in feeling something. And I believe that crying can sometimes be a brave thing. Like you admit you have issues, problems, and you decide to really face them (and by crying you admit somehow that you are limited as a human ... or even wizard), instead of hiding behind a fake boldness... I don't really know if I got my point just now...cause I feel kinda confused myself.

What really puzzels me is that I never actually met anyone pure evil. I only read about charachters that are sooo evil, but most of them have reasons for beeing so, and almost always, in the end they have a good feature about them. (This is why I can't understand Voldemort ). But this is about Draco. Even if he will not turn good he will neither turn pure evil. He still has a soul (intact) and I strongly belive that an untouched soul can't really become trully evil.

[Tanuki]

What was good about Hitler, may I ask? Can you find some reason to forgive him. Evil exists in the world, even though you may not want to admit it

[SunsetG|rl]

I belive he at least prooved kindness towards people whom he thought deserve it. I'm talking here about absolute evil.

And then again I might just be a stupid dreamer... Oh well...it's just fall...

[thestral]

of course there is no such thing as absolute evil, as no-one is absolutly evil, in the same way no-one is absolutly perfect.

no-one is perfect and no-one is evil. everyone lives somewhere between the two. evil is what you do, not what you are.

[SunsetG|rl]

I agree with you, Thestral.

But still...can anyone name one good thing Voldemort has done in his whole life?... I mean one that we know of...

[Lelie]

i don't think you can name anything good he's done, other than feel guilty as a child and give back what he stole. we aren't meant to see his good side. we are supposed to think of him as inherently evil (whether that type of person exists in reality or not)

[Tanuki]

Do you guys who don't believe in perfection or evil happen to believe in god. I'm not making a point, just following a concept I'm wodnering about. Anyway, as for the existence of evil in the world. It exists in sadists... think about it. Someoen who enjoys to cause pain, what is moer evil than that

[SunsetG|rl]

There also are masochists who enjoy pain. So is pain somethig like really evil? I rather see evil as an absence of good. Like Good exists, but where it's missing, it's just Evil.

[thestral]

what's your concept tanuki? and for the record, no, i don't believe in god. and who can say one one act is more evil than another? all evil acts have evil consequences, but does the consequence change how evil the act is? who can measure evil? who can measure how good an act is?

all of this is a very gray area, in the same way humans are very complex beings, because we have thoughts and freedom of choice, our choices often have far reaching consequences that we can't comprehend. also people have different motivations. some honest good people make bad choices or do 'evil' acts out of a desire to do good.

who can judge then if a person is entirely evil? no-one knows the whole story, we judge on what we see and like an iceberg we only see one tenth of a person in the present, we can't see their past and the influences that have shaped them. therefore how can we fully understand a person's actions or condemn a person's actions?

anyway i think what all this boils down to is that there is no black and white, everyone is somewhere inbetween and no-one would like to be judged as one thing or another. yet religion tells us you are either a sheep or a goat, you either go to heaven or hell. and that is partly why i don't believe in god. it doesn't give me satisfactory answers, instead it gives simple sweeping statements. like a t-shirt that says one size fits all, religion fits no-one, so therefore people tailor it to what they want to believe. but essentially it was flawed from the beginning otherwise you wouldn't have to change the stitching to make it fit.