Broomsticks And Owls

by **Ju-DedoH** » Tuesday 8 July 2003 7:09:22pm

I mean, he was no good with Cho ! (even I would have done better, was the feeling i got while reading, and thats not good ...)
He didn't think of telling snape about sirius at the end (neither did hermione actually witch was quite a suprise !)
and did'nt even think about the thing sirius had given him ! he did'nt ever open the parcel to see what it was before it was too late ! I was jumping all around the room yelling at the book that snape was of the ootp ! what a letdown !
This episode wasn't a good one for harry, does'nt do anything new like learning an awesome spell, and does'nt get any super idea like a real hero should !
If all that is due to becoming a teenager, then JKR has'nt been very nice with harry this time.

by **azn wizard** » Wednesday 9 July 2003 6:46:22am

yes, i would say hez going through a serious case of puberty with his mood swings and anal moments...

by **Ju-DedoH** » Wednesday 9 July 2003 4:47:04pm

sorry about the title for whoever modified it, won't do it again, but harry has annoyed me so much

by **Lizzy Bennet** » Wednesday 9 July 2003 5:09:19pm

Ju-DedoH wrote:sorry about the title for whoever modified it, won't do it again, but harry has annoyed me so much

That's a funny story actually. :grin:

I modified it, not because of content, but to better fit with the other titles, and to give it a title so that people could say BOTH negative AND positive things about Harry--does that make sense? :???:

Then I thought about changing the title back and moving it to discussions, but I couldn't remember it, and we don't have a Harry thread in the characters section, so there you go. Whew! Hope that's alright with you! :oops:

So, NOTHING was wrong with your title...you're entitled to your opinion! :-)

Totally off-topic post, but I do promise to write some about Harry when I have time!

~ Lizzy

by **Ju-DedoH** » Wednesday 9 July 2003 5:10:53pm

no problem, i found it wierd too to not find a harry potter thread in the character section ...

by **Lizzy Bennet** » Wednesday 9 July 2003 5:22:24pm

Ju-DedoH wrote:no problem, i found it wierd too to not find a harry potter thread in the character section ...

I guess there were so many off-the-wall characters and actions going on in book 5, Harry wasn't the first person to think of talking about! :razz:

Additionally, I believe, in the Book 5 Discussion area, there is a good thread on a similar topic called 'Angry Harry':

http://www.broomsticksandowls.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=29022#29022

As a note to everyone, some topics are a bit similar from here and the other sections, but I figure, this is a section to discuss characters is an isolated way...in that each character or small group of characters has their own thread. :-)

Hope that helps explain...so that I'm not totally off-topic twice, I will say that while I found Harry's behavior, given his age and his experiences, understandable, I will say this: typically (not always!) guys tend to get angry when they are upset and 'lash out' (ala Harry) whereas girls, when upset, tend to cry and/or get emotional (ala Cho)...obviously, that's not ALWAYS the case, but given that example, how is Harry's shouting at everyone all that different from Cho's crying all the time? :???:

And is it really fair to be harsher towards one than the other? Both got on my nerves, but perhaps I was a little more compassionate to Harry (and especially the second time reading this book, because I know the loss he is to suffer :cry:

) because he's suffered these things he's dealing with first-hand, unlike Cho. Just my thoughts! :-)

~ Lizzy

by **gecko** » Wednesday 9 July 2003 7:33:13pm

But you have to see it from this side too. Harry has encountered death and evil things way more often than Cho. She on the other hand, lost her boyfriend, and she was never told the real story. Harry knew what happened with Cedric, as he knew what happened all those others times something bad happened to him. What I'm trying to say is that Cho has more right to act so bad/strange than Harry, because she has never had to deal with such a situation before.

Harry should really have thought more, instead of doing the first thing that came to mind. I mean a little puberty angriness would've been nice, but it was a bit overdone.

by **Ju-DedoH** » Wednesday 9 July 2003 8:04:41pm

also, harry is the only one able to tell her what really happened, how could he be jealous of a dead person ?

by **June** » Thursday 10 July 2003 5:24:40am

Ju-DedoH wrote:how could he be jealous of a dead person ?

Why not? I think it's perfectly normal to be jealous of a dead person, if the memory of that person is so strong that one brings it up constantly, and it becomes a barrier between the two, as in the case of Cho. For instance, what if Harry was wanting to whisper sweet nothings into Cho's ears, and she just brought up Cedric out of nowhere? It would put a damper on any mood Harry might be in, I should think. =P

In any case, I think the 2 of them were too young to be in a mature relationship, and there are too many bad memories between them to really make it work, neither being able to handle all the traumatic events and console each other. It's a relationship doomed from the start, I think...

by **azn wizard** » Thursday 10 July 2003 5:35:40am

i dun see anything wrong with being jealous....but i do agree, that he should've told cho about cedric's death. i mean, he was the only once who could tell her about his death, no?

by **azn wizard** » Thursday 10 July 2003 5:36:13am

i dun see anything wrong with being jealous....but i do agree, that he should've told cho about cedric's death. i mean, he was the only once who could tell her about his death, no? and being cedric's gf, cho has every right to desire to know how her boyfriend really died...

by **Ju-DedoH** » Thursday 10 July 2003 10:16:06pm

I think the barrier was him refusing to talk about cedric in order to move on afterwards, it is normal that she would want to know, you can only become jealous if the person persists to reffer to the dead one even after discussing it

by **HuffleDuck** » Friday 11 July 2003 12:57:58am

Ju-DedoH wrote:also, harry is the only one able to tell her what really happened, how could he be jealous of a dead person ?

jealous is one thing but feeling guilty is most likely. It's like your best friend is dead and your dating his girlfriend after he's dead. Even though cedric is not harry friend, but dating a dead person's gf :???:

And would you wanna go out with somebody that keeps asking about the dead person that you was there to see his death and how he died and he managed to survive?Even though cho might have the right to ask about cedric's death, but why not before they go out instead of while they're out on a date.
Harry's attitude and behavior fit perfectly with what has happened around him and things happened to him. The book is becoming realistic now. He's not like those(other books' main character) trying to be modest and trying to act all nice and understanding. If he annoys you, then you probably are feeling the realism of the world. but then again i might be wrong :razz:

by **HuffleDuck** » Friday 11 July 2003 1:01:29am

Ju-DedoH wrote:also, harry is the only one able to tell her what really happened, how could he be jealous of a dead person ?

jealous is one thing but feeling guilty is most likely. It's like your best friend is dead and your dating his girlfriend after he's dead. Even though cedric is not harry's best friend, but dating a dead person's gf :???:

And would you wanna go out with somebody that keeps asking about the dead person that you was there to witness his death and how he died and he, harry managed to survive?Even though cho might have the right to ask about cedric's death, but why not ask before they go out instead of while they're out on a date.
Harry's attitude and behavior fit perfectly with what has happened around him and things happened to him. The book is becoming realistic now. He's not like those(other books' main character) trying to be modest and trying to act all nice and understanding. If he annoys you, then you probably are feeling the realism of the world. but then again i might be wrong :razz:

Aww manno editing button... sorry to bother the moderator here, but can u remove my first post? :razz:

Thanks a bunch

by **azn wizard** » Friday 11 July 2003 3:51:05am

well, she didn't really have many chances now did she? and plus, she did ask him before they went to have coffee

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