Is Snape Evil?

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Postby GodrictheGriffon » Friday 16 March 2007 6:06:14pm

You might be right, Simatra!
I don't think that he'd be stupid enough to go back to Spinner's End.
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Postby Run Away!!! » Friday 16 March 2007 7:48:09pm

Australia was a penal colony, waaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the day when the country was first colonized. But today that is totally unrelated to anything and makes no difference whatsoever. Im pretty sure Snape would be wanting to stay where the action is. ]
I don't think azkaban would be there either, I mean, Sirius would have had to have travelled a LONG way! I doubt he could swim all that ocean. :-)
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Postby youknowwho » Friday 16 March 2007 9:55:22pm

Azkaban is on a small island in the north sea
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Postby Phoenix in the Ashes » Saturday 17 March 2007 3:22:14am

I don't even know what to say about that comment about Australia... :o ...

Azkaban has always conjured images to me of being in the same style as Alcatraz... certainly not the size of a continent :D .

But yes - Azkaban is on a small island in the North Sea.

But anyway, with Snape, the world is definitely not black and white. There is a whole lot of grey there.

The fact of the matter is, he could have let Harry die, very easily.

He could of not cared at all that James had saved his life.

But he did, and he did. He's not evil. Very bad perhaps, twisted... but not pure evil.

You cannot say someone is good or evil. That's why you can do it for Voldemort - because he doesn't qualify as someone anymore. He doesn't qualify as a person.
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Postby FawkesthePhoenix » Saturday 17 March 2007 4:57:52pm

i wouldn't say that snape is pure evil either, bc no one is, not even V. you can act evil, and think evil, but deep down no one is completly bad. but, i do think snape is on V's side.
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Postby GodrictheGriffon » Saturday 17 March 2007 11:09:48pm

Sorry, PITA. Just another of my brains random connections.
I would say that Snape's working for himself.
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Postby Alexandra » Sunday 18 March 2007 11:19:39pm

Hi there. Now, I didn't say that DD wanted to die, I said that he begged Snape to kill him. Would DD begg for his life?? Maybe Snape made the wow because he knew that he had to kill DD in the end. If he was saving Draco he would have made him to kill DD. What do you think Voldemort is going to do when he hears that Draco couldn't do it? Snape went back to Voldemort, wherever he is. Snape is difficult and he is not entirely good but he is on DD's side! :evil:
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Postby FawkesthePhoenix » Monday 19 March 2007 12:49:49am

i don't think so. dd wouldn't beg snape to kill him, because dd hadn't finished teaching harry about the boy voldemort. i think dd was begging snape not to join the des.
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Postby Run Away!!! » Monday 19 March 2007 7:56:34pm

I agree, DD may not have even foreseen that Snape was going to kill him just like that! He may have been begging for Snape not to follow the DE's and to stay on their side.
I think their are evil people, for me anybody with bad intentions qualify's as evil. I don't care if they "have some good in them left way down deep inside somewhere." :-? Thats just too 'nice' and fluffy for me. euch.
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Postby FawkesthePhoenix » Monday 19 March 2007 9:24:40pm

well, in my book, if you could do something nice your not all bad. unless someone literally could not be nice (which is extremely improbable, maybe even impossible) they aren't pure evil. snape could renounce his ways. although it's unlikely, he could, therefore, he's not pure evil. everyone has the power to do something nice. snape isn't pure evil, but he's a DE.
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Postby Scellanis » Monday 19 March 2007 11:36:10pm

Alexandra wrote:Hi there. Now, I didn't say that DD wanted to die, I said that he begged Snape to kill him. Would DD begg for his life?? Maybe Snape made the wow because he knew that he had to kill DD in the end. If he was saving Draco he would have made him to kill DD. What do you think Voldemort is going to do when he hears that Draco couldn't do it? Snape went back to Voldemort, wherever he is. Snape is difficult and he is not entirely good but he is on DD's side! :evil:


I agree completely, I think Dumbledore knew there was no surviving what he drank and also that Draco would die or be punished if Dubledore did not die. Dumbledore doesn't strike me as the type of man to beg for his life, I think seeing as both Dumbledore and Snape can do that occlumency thingy that they had a whole conversation about what Snape should do before Snape killed Dumbledore.
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Postby Simatra » Tuesday 20 March 2007 3:23:14pm

Yes there's no way that DD would beg to die, but I still call Snape a bad guy because of what he's done, even if we fould out he was good he's still evil in my opinion. Remember when in the first book we found out Snape wasn't trying to get the stone, he was a "good guy", but that didn't make us stop hating him or suspecting him.
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Postby FawkesthePhoenix » Tuesday 20 March 2007 9:29:17pm

Scellanis wrote:
Alexandra wrote:Hi there. Now, I didn't say that DD wanted to die, I said that he begged Snape to kill him. Would DD begg for his life?? Maybe Snape made the wow because he knew that he had to kill DD in the end. If he was saving Draco he would have made him to kill DD. What do you think Voldemort is going to do when he hears that Draco couldn't do it? Snape went back to Voldemort, wherever he is. Snape is difficult and he is not entirely good but he is on DD's side! :evil:


I agree completely, I think Dumbledore knew there was no surviving what he drank and also that Draco would die or be punished if Dubledore did not die. Dumbledore doesn't strike me as the type of man to beg for his life, I think seeing as both Dumbledore and Snape can do that occlumency thingy that they had a whole conversation about what Snape should do before Snape killed Dumbledore.

that just doesn't seem right to me. it's just not something dd would do. dd wouldn't leave his lessons with harry unfinished. and he wouldn't do it spur of the moment either, it's just not his style.
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Postby youknowwho » Wednesday 21 March 2007 12:09:24am

Has it occured to you that dumbledore was done teaching Harry about Voldemort.

I'm not saying that Dumbledore wanted to die, but perhaps his death was harry's final lesson: that even those who seem all pwerful and imortal can be defeated.
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Postby Simatra » Wednesday 21 March 2007 3:02:58pm

Yes, there's another thing Harry needs to learn...is how to let go, :-( but with all the bad things that have happened to him, you can't blame him.
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