Goblet of Fire movie problems...

[Lizzy Bennet]

For all of those who have read GoF, you can well imagine that the fourth movie, should it be made, will present some real problems beyond just the cast potentially "aging out".

Firstly, the movies, up to this point, have all had an American PG rating (I'm not sure what the equivalent rating is in other countries--I apologize!! ). This simply meaning "parental guidance" suggested, but pretty much, anyone could go see the movies.

However (and this *may* be the case for movie 3), I can't see how (if they stay faithful to book #4 at all!) the GoF movie could have the same rating as the first two movies. I think it would be certainly knocked up one rating to PG-13 (meaning "parental guidance for all those under 13"). Also, moviemakers are in the business of making money . . . having a PG-rating (and a PG-movie) makes them far more money than a PG-13 movie. That's a lot of younger kids not being taken to go see the movie by their parents based on what their parents feel their young children (I'm thinking pre-teens and younger) can handle.

In addition to the content of book #4, there's also the issue of the *length* of book #4. No matter how you cut it, that's going to be one *long* movie! I've read where they've thought about splitting it into two movies or possibly providing one long movie with an intermission. Again, those with young children have to ask how long they can have their children sit in a theatre (intermission or not). With two movies, you cut out the length problem, but how would people feel about two movies? These are other concerns for the moviemakers.

I really hope the fourth book *is* made into a movie, despite these problems, but what do you think about these issues? What do you think the best solution is for translating the fourth book into a movie? I started a different thread about the changing cast, so this thread is mainly about staying true to the story (and the effect that'll have on the rating and viewership) as well as the length of the movie (two movies or one really long movie, possibly with an intermission?). Let's hear your thoughts!

[Mint]

Book 3 is not PG? Sorry, Mints memory sucks, you have to remind me why.

Book 4 - you mean death at the end? Oh, may be they just wont "Say" that he is dead .....like they will say smth "I can't believe I won't see him anymore"........you know - rephrase it without the word "death" in it.

Just a thought....

[Broken Machine]

Last time I was at IMDB there was a thread like this with a link to an actual post on the bbc stating that the movie may infact be split into two movies but movie number six will positivly be split into two. There was a movie employee who stated that if the movie was one long film with an intermission the showings for it would be split in half due to time constraint and that money would definitly not accumulate fast enough. I would rather have them split it in two like they did with the Matrix but not set them so far apart. Maybe have one come out a month apart from each other that way they can keep the story together. I have to be honest, I thought the second movie lacked so horribly it almost wasn't even Harry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets. It was just to short to get you caught up in the suspense of who the real heir of Slytherine was. I am a huge fan of the new director and I think he will do the right thing. He focuses more on the imaginative rather then the foolishness of a scene where a flying car gets chased down by a train, which wasn't even in the book. If you want to see what he's capable of rent the movie A Little Princess. It's a great film although greatly depressing.

[Charis]

I didn't know Alfonso Cuaron directed A Little Princess! I love that movie

as for Book 4, I wouldn't mind it being split into two movies, as long as, like Broken Machine said, they won't be too far apart. with the rating thing, they have to put in Ced's death, and Voldie's rise, and all that. so, i don't know how they could get around a PG-13 rating. who knows, but however they make it, i hope they stay true to the story and don't try to make it tamer just for a larger audiencce ( = more money)

[Holly Golightly]

Yeah, I agree! I would definately love two parts to GoF, provided that they came our very close to eachother! Same time even, so if you wanted you could watch one,thent he other!

But I do hope that they dont' water it down too much with all the dark!ish things that happen! It will take away from the story too much I think... and set a precedence for doing it in the otehr boks, if they make them all into movies... *And I really hope that they do!!!*

[Hermione Weasley]

i don't think there is a way to get around the pg-13 rating at all.I mean most of the events that happen are geared more towards teens anyway and if the parents didn't have a hard time letting there kids read about a death then they shoudln't say that they can't go to the movie.i mean the way it written its not bloody or anything.I think even if it was pg-13 rated it would do great in the box office.and i agree with broken machine that the movies coould be two seprate ones as long as they are not far apart it would do great in the box office b/c i know me and my friends are not going to sit through a movie thats really long even if it is harry potter movie.

[Holly Golightly]

No way! I'd even sit throught 8hrs of movie, provided that they gave you a break or two, to go to the toilet and grab another frozen coke!!! hehehe!~

[Rizzoku]

It's not going to be PG-13. The death isn't graphic. They killed quirrel in the first movie and that's more graphic than Cedric's death. The avada Kedavra Curse doesn't split Apart their body and shoot blood everywhere. Somebody needs to read the books again. It'll stay PG it's not that hard.

[highsorcerer]

There are an episode of graphic violence in the book that probably result in a PG-13 rating. It is the decapitation of Pettigrew's hand (and the resulting blood). It's not clean, like the similar decapitaion of a hand done in The Empire Strikes Back, were the wound was burned and sealed shut.

The other episodes of violence (the death of the Riddles, the caretaker, and Cedric, the injuries the Irish seeker and Viktor Krum received, plus the cutting of Harry to obtain blood) are either non-violent in implimentation, or are mild (similar to the wound Harry got and gave to the basilisk in CoS).

[2F2Type_R]

hmm... i remember reports of a lot of little kids who were more affected by Ron belching slugs than the Basilisk bit at the end- even then it was scary for them

hopefully this won't mean that they'll be more strict when classifying PoA

[Colin]

I think the lot of you are underestimating the little tykes of this world. They were weaned on violent cartoons and they have watched countless movie trailers portraying far more violence than will ever appear in GoF.

Am I happy about this? No. But it is what it is. If the producers slap a PG13 on GoF the seats will not fill up with 9 year olds who love this series.

Money talks. I would not be surprised " to see a G rating on this thing:)

[Colin]

MSNBC posted an article about the filming of GoF. This is the beginning of the second paragraph:

OVER THE SCREECHING din of the shack, Radcliffe repeatedly shouts, “You betrayed my parents! You’re the reason they’re dead!”

Screeching din?

We know that the screeching was caused by Lupin in his werewolf form. This scene in the book had Lupin in his Human forum, hence no screeching.

I have a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach that the director thinks the shack screeches all the time, without respect to Lupin's form.

This is a serious breech. Didn't anyone explain to him why the shack screeches? This is the reasons I prefer the books to the movies.

[Colin]

Ooops. Sorry, I was talking about the PoA movie. I get them a bit confused some times.

[Devinci]

First off, I don't think they should split the fourth movie into two parts. Because, playing the part of the pesemist, the movies would take FOREVER to be released...thus...leaving people like me with this...empty feeling

Besides, look at Lord Of the Rings...there's a long movie.

[Gwared]

First off, I don't think they should split the fourth movie into two parts. Because, playing the part of the pesemist, the movies would take FOREVER to be released...thus...leaving people like me with this...empty feeling

Besides, look at Lord Of the Rings...there's a long movie.

Yes, but I've never found it that much fun sitting through most of a movie with my legs crossed!