A possibly army for DD's side???

[Holly Golightly]

Okeis, there is something that I though of a while ago, but forgot to post untill I was reading about people thinging that History of Magic classes might prove useful later on...

At one stage, we were discussing the possibilities of there being army's on DD's side to combat those that Voldie has working for him, ie the dementors, and possibly the giants, DE's, etc!

Now, I was thinking... what about the Goblins? There was a bit of a hint in Ootp about them, (so I think) when Bill was saying that they were still a little miffed about Bagman skippingout on them, but the conversation was about something like 'are they favorable to DD's side or not'?

Also, in GoF (I think) where Hermoine is talking about House Elf Rights, Ron asks her is she wants to start up a group to protect the Goblins, and she says that Goblins are perfectly capable of dealing with wizards... (the rebeilions they learn all about in Histroy of Magic...)

Okies, so that's my little theory...
What do you guys all think?

Holly

PS, I decided to all a poll, just because I think that they are fun!

[justin]

I doubt the goblins will take sides in the fight. If anything they might keep things for DD in safe keeping, but I hardly see them fighting unless they are defending what is their's. Anywho, they really seem to keep to themselves.

[Nacht]

I don't think there's gonna be an all out war. And with goblins and all it really would get too Tolkienish.

[Hermy]

I am convinced that the History of Magic lessons will be crucial to harry defeated Voldemort (as they are SO BORING!) - maybe that is why!

[Albus]

I agree with Nacht.
Maybe the goblins with get on DD's side, but there'll be no all out war, it would be really too Tolkienish...

[Eol]

I doubt there's going to be an army-battlefield type war. Voldy's the hit-and-run kind of leader. He'll only go to storm the castle as it were, when and only when he has the numbers.

[Dink Meeker]

EOL's right. The books (and us) continue to call this a war, but I think a more appropriate analogy would be to a spy conflict (espionage and counter-espionage) or terrorism.

We're not talking about a thousand wizards on field trying to take a piece of real estate. More like a chess game taking a pawn here, losing a bishop there.

I've always felt that alot of the wizarding community isn't involved, just happy when it's over.

[gecko]

Yep, I agree with that. But I do think a big part of the wizarding community is involved, only because they work at the MoM. I mean, as far as I know, a big part of the wizards work for the MoM, and that is always busy in the war, be it a big war or more of a spy conflict, I think.

On the topic, I guess if Voldemort wants to, he can persuade the Goblins to fight with him, being the good at manipulating others. But will he do it? For a 'terrorism-war' he would need only a handful of fanatic followers, whom he has, so the Goblins would be unnecessary then. Besides, soldiers want to get payed, and how is going to do that?

[Dink Meeker]

Yep, I agree with that. But I do think a big part of the wizarding community is involved, only because they work at the MoM. I mean, as far as I know, a big part of the wizards work for the MoM, and that is always busy in the war, be it a big war or more of a spy conflict, I think.

I'm sorry Gecko, I never really took the population of the Wizarding community into consideration. I just assumed that it was much larger than what we have met in the books.

As far as most of the wizards working at MOM, I don't think that can be possible. We know through Mr. Weasley that the ministry workers are paid positions. If most of your population work at the ministry, the tax dollars needed to pay them, collected from your smallest sector, would be extrordinary and most likely cause a revolt.

IMHO
Huey

[gecko]

Mm, I really meant no offence with my last post, hope you didn't take it that way.

I see your point about how it cannot be that the majority works out the MoM, but it is the idea I get from the books for some reason. A lot of students think seriously about working for their wizard government and if I compare that with people from my school, hah, I think only few have even considered working with the government ! Anyhow, like you I guess that the wizarding community is larger than one wouldd think given the number of students Hogwarts has. I read somewhere on the boards that it could very well be that only those with enough magical ability are selected for Hogwarts, and that the rest (for example Stan from the knight bus) has to learn magic from parents or somebody else. A large community would explain how the ministry-workers are paid.

Again, sorry if my previous post was rude!

[Dink Meeker]

Hey Gecko: No offence taken at all. Never took the post as rude in any way. It's hard, in forums, to know what kind of slant each reader will apply to your written text. I hope none of my posts come across as rude either.

[Eol]

I agree with Gecko here, that the books give the impression that most of the wizarding community work for the MoM. However, when I think about it, there is the entrepreneur environment going on in the community too. There are a huge variety of shops, and there must be things like quidditch coaches, drivers (Knightbus), primary school teachers (come on the wizard kiddies must go somewhere!!), musicians- successful or otherwise...the list goes on. These things just haven't got the same attention in the books as the Ministry has.

[Hermy]

And all the wizrads/witches who work in Diagon Alley and Hogsmead.....

[highsorcerer]

but the goblins might take things personlly. Lugo Bagman did not do them right. They have fought wizards before, and held their own.

[Hermy]

Maybe it will be the house elves which form an army. There are loads of them working at Hogworts and presumably under order from DUmbledore - and we know they can do their own kind of magic.