Two theories i found

[Gower]

To be honest i can't even remember which site i found these two theories... and i personally think they're a bit far fetched but i just wondered what you think of them: First theory is that Percy is working undercover for the order to spy on the ministry. This is VERY secret however because he has to pretend he fell out with his parents, and nobody but his parents know this. Second theory (which i think is even worse ) is about Dumbledore saying that he didn't care how many titles the ministry took off him as long as he could still have his picture on the chocolate frog cards! Maybe he is using these cards with his picture on as a means of spying. To me these seem dubious. What do you think?

[Charis]

well... the Percy one i suppose is possible.

the one with Dumbledore--i don't really get it. i didn't think all people could actually be their picture selves, like go to one of their pictures and see whats happening around them. i thought perhaps that only the old headmaster's could actually movie b/w their own portraits, maybe they were bewitched or something. also it might be different with photos than paintings. i don't know how well i'm explaining this

[Hermione Weasley]

the way i took it in the books was that pictures and paintings could move btw pictures and what not b/c they were inchanted. I know i have heard the second one somewhere before!!

[highsorcerer]

I think the difference between photos and paintings is that photos are like regular photos - except when developed in the right potion, the people in the move (Colin Creevley said that I think). However, paintings employ something not unlike Tom Riddle, Jr.'s diary, or a pensive - they retain memories and characteristics of the person they were painted from.

[Albus]

There's a point in your favour Gower: in Philospher's Stone, when Harry finds his first chocolate frog photo, Dumbledore, he observes it for a while and then he (Dumbledore) vanishes. Surprised, Harry asks Ron and Ron answers him "You can't pretend he would remain it all day !", so I think it is a quite strange but possible theory.

[Gower]

i can't think of any reason why dumbeldore would mind having his picture taken off the chocolate frog cards unless he was using them in some way.

[Jotomicron]

actually, i think that DD says that in a funny way , just like he's making some irony to the fact he was taken his titles ...

About the theory on Percy, 8) if his spying for the order, he must be an excellent actor, cause he must be deceiving his own parents. It's said:

'(...) every time Percy's name's mentioned, Dad breaks something and Mum starts crying,' Fred said.

And I think Mr Weasley wouldn't start breaking things every now and then (they're not the richest people on earth, right? ). And Percy'spersonality is always the same in the 5 books (i think). If you know what i mean ... His personality is perfectly adjusted to that sort of argument with his father ... (little evil, that boy... )

[Gower]

actually, i think that DD says that in a funny way , just like he's making some irony to the fact he was taken his titles ...

About the theory on Percy, 8) if his spying for the order, he must be an excellent actor, cause he must be deceiving his own parents. It's said:

'(...) every time Percy's name's mentioned, Dad breaks something and Mum starts crying,' Fred said.

And I think Mr Weasley wouldn't start breaking things every now and then (they're not the richest people on earth, right? ). And Percy'spersonality is always the same in the 5 books (i think). If you know what i mean ... His personality is perfectly adjusted to that sort of argument with his father ... (little evil, that boy... )

you have some good points here. In fact you've probably disproved the Percy theory

[Charis]

I think the difference between photos and paintings is that photos are like regular photos - except when developed in the right potion, the people in the move (Colin Creevley said that I think). However, paintings employ something not unlike Tom Riddle, Jr.'s diary, or a pensive - they retain memories and characteristics of the person they were painted from.

i see... that sounds right! hey just thought of something-- what would it have been like to meet sir cadogen in real life?!?? sorry off-topic.

[Holly Golightly]

Well, the thing that gets me most about the Percy theory is that someone in the order would have to know that he is undercover and spying, right? Even if Mr and Mrs Weasley dont' know, someone, presumably DD would. And I cant' see DD allowing Mr and Mrs Weasley to be put through that much pain for anything... From recollection, Mrs W was reall crushed indeed when Percy sent back his Christmas jumper... DD just wouldnt do that.

About the cards though.. interesting stuff to think about, but I think that t's right that photo's down work that way, just paintings. I'd say DD was trying to be funny, like Jotomicron suggested!

[Dink Meeker]

About the cards though.. interesting stuff to think about, but I think that t's right that photo's down work that way, just paintings. I'd say DD was trying to be funny, like Jotomicron suggested!

I have to agree Holly. I would say that Dumbledore was trying to make a point. To the effect that ministry titles etc. isn't what he's seeking in life. I think he's saying that he's here for the children. To teach (life lessons as well as school lessons) and to protect. That's why he has always charished the headmaster's job at Hogwarts.

[Gower]

Well, the thing that gets me most about the Percy theory is that someone in the order would have to know that he is undercover and spying, right? Even if Mr and Mrs Weasley dont' know, someone, presumably DD would. And I cant' see DD allowing Mr and Mrs Weasley to be put through that much pain for anything... From recollection, Mrs W was reall crushed indeed when Percy sent back his Christmas jumper... DD just wouldnt do that.

About the cards though.. interesting stuff to think about, but I think that t's right that photo's down work that way, just paintings. I'd say DD was trying to be funny, like Jotomicron suggested!

I know what ure saying, but remember that DD put Harry through quite a lot when he was trying to protect him.

[Ju-DedoH]

I remember in the first book harry being surprised that DD leaves the photo and ron answering matteroffactly that he he wasn't expected to stay all day. I think the 2nd theory could have some truth in it (very farfetched truth I agree)
but the first theory seems quite improbable to me, why would they hide it to the rest of the ootp ???

[Gower]

I remember in the first book harry being surprised that DD leaves the photo and ron answering matteroffactly that he he wasn't expected to stay all day. I think the 2nd theory could have some truth in it (very farfetched truth I agree)
but the first theory seems quite improbable to me, why would they hide it to the rest of the ootp ???

well maybe they think there is an insider in the order working for the dark side.

[Jotomicron]

well maybe they think there is an insider in the order working for the dark side.

Yes (actually, there is Kreacher)... but DD hadn't no reason to hide it from Mrs and Mr Weasley, at least, that's what i think...


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