Snape Really Is Evil

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Snape Really Is Evil

Postby Sacred Guardian » Friday 8 August 2003 2:28:15am

Well, when i was rereading OotP, when Sirius and Snape are fighting, Sirius says somting along the lines of "Dumbledore may trust you, but I know better" or somthing like that, and Ron seems to always think that he is up to no good, what if while in Azkaban Sirius heard some of the death eaters talking and someone told him that they knew snape was a double agent, and that he was a tripple agent (is that what you call it?), i don't know, it might be out there, but it could happen
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Postby Devinci » Friday 8 August 2003 6:55:19am

I think Snape is just a big puppy who's misunderstood.

No, really, I think he's one of those inner turmoil men with lots to deal with. All the trauma he sustained due to his shaky childhood (namely with the marauders...those shmucks... :o ) I think Snape is gonna come through in the end, prove himself.

What a grand ending... :angel:
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Postby Hermy » Friday 8 August 2003 10:33:16am

That's a good point about Sirius hearing things from the Deatheaters in Azkaban about Snape. But I think that is part of the job. He basically admits this to Harry, so he is doing his job properly if the deatheaters do believe he is on their side.
Dumbledore must have a good reason to trust Snape. I also think that we will see his "good" side before much too long.
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Postby Sacred Guardian » Friday 8 August 2003 3:23:08pm

yeah, i think he does have a resone to trust him, but i still don't know, i've always thought him a shifty character
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Postby Holly Golightly » Friday 8 August 2003 4:05:45pm

I would assume that all Sirius has are suspicions. If he had any definate proof, he would have taken in to DD straight away.

I honestly don't think that Snape is evil though. I have a feeling that for a brief period, he may consider going back to the DE's, but he will choose good over evil in the event that that does happen! (I think anwyas!!!)

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Postby Dink Meeker » Friday 8 August 2003 4:13:43pm

Has anyone considered that Snape might not have been evil at all. That he only joined the Death Eaters on the request of Dumbledore and has always been on the side of the Order.

Just a thought. :grin:
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Postby Eol » Friday 8 August 2003 4:40:52pm

Snape may be cruel and, well, cruel but I think he truly is on the right side. Sirius and Snape just hate each other. Incidentally, I would like to see how that first started.
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Postby Sacred Guardian » Friday 8 August 2003 7:03:56pm

in response to holly, maybe sirius has tried to warn him, but DD won't listen for some reason
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Postby Hermione Weasley » Friday 8 August 2003 7:48:26pm

I don't think JKR would make it so obcious I think snape can be trusted just in due time but I think when harry, ron, and hermione do believe he can be trusted it will be to late and would cause harry more trouble and anger in his mind
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Postby Holly Golightly » Saturday 9 August 2003 7:55:04am

SG, yeah, but what I mean was, the warnings would just be Sirius' opinions etc. Unless he had definate proof about Snaoe's duplicity, then DD woudlnt' accept it, I would assume! After all, opinions are one thing (and those two have hated eachother for years) but proof is proof! :D
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Postby Herminny » Thursday 22 January 2004 11:00:41am

Snape is really a hard one to figure out. :???:

I think he was the spi that told DD that the Potters were about to be attacked. If he was that would have taken a lot of er...courage (i know not the right word) because of how much he hated James.

On the other had its interesting to find that Voldy, DD and Snape are very good at occul....you know what i mean. :oops:

Ity means that each one can lie to the others without being found out. What this may mean is that Snape may decide to work for Voldy, and DD could not really know. :-(

All the time JK tries to make us think that SNape is on the dark side, then at the end of the books we often see he is on DD side. But maybe..just maybe its like a bluff so we won't see or believe the clues later on in the books that tell us that Snape is evil. :evil:
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Postby Mistress Siana » Thursday 22 January 2004 9:44:55pm

Herminny wrote: But maybe..just maybe its like a bluff so we won't see or believe the clues later on in the books that tell us that Snape is evil. :evil:


The fact that everyone argues whether he's good or bad makes me wonder if he's maybe...both! Maybe on neither side or somewhere in between...however that is possible. :???:

At least I think that, due to the fact that DD trusts him, Snape is far too important for LV's cause to just have him killed. I believe that if there's anything or anyone that matters to Snape, Voldie will use it against him!
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Postby Jotomicron » Friday 23 January 2004 7:40:07pm

Mistress Siana wrote:...however that is possible. :???:

One thing everyone should learn is that, with JKR, nothing is impossible. I really mean everything: not just dogs with three heaqds, not just morphing, not just disaparating. I think that, with JKR, even a stright line as one or two curves; or a dead person can be a living person!

And Snape is really something more than we all know. I think he is both evil and good, but somehow, none of them!
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Snape not evil

Postby Athena Appleton » Sunday 25 January 2004 7:13:19am

Think on this: 15 years ago (or more), Snape was a Death Eater who had a bad attitude and loathed James Potter and his friends. Right before James and Lily kick the bucket, he turns double agent and joins the Order. However, because he's a double agent, he has to APPEAR to still hate James, and subsequently, Harry. If he didn't, Voldything and his supporters would quickly become suspicious. Look at it from a Death Eaters point of view.
In OotP, Snape takes Harry seriously when Harry tries to warn him that he thinks Sirius is in the Dept. of Mysteries, but he has to look like he's got no clue and keep up the act that he hates Harry (which he probably does, jealousy can run deep, even between two "good guys").
I think the question of whether or not Snape is a good guy can be inferred early on in the series that it's not who we are, but the choices we make, that matter. In real life, there are mean good guys. In real life, there are nice bad guys.
Also, I'm not sure, but does't Ron make a joke that Snape is more likely to adopt Harry than to let them fool around in class (think Book 4)? Aren't Ron's jokes usually more accurate than his serious theories? I don't think Snape actually would adopt Harry (after all, Harry is almost a fully-grown wizard), but I do think that little comment could show some insight into what kind of person Snape will turn out to be.
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Postby Aberforth » Wednesday 18 February 2004 10:51:07am

I'm interested in what LV thinks about Snape. There is no mention of Snape answering the call of the dark mark to return to LVs side when he was reborn (although there is the three missing DEs mentioned).

But what is Snape supposed to be doing for LV? Snape is at Hogwarts. Dumbledore is at Hogwarts, HP is too. Surely, LV would want Snape to kill HP or DD at some point to prove his loyalty and because he has access to both of them on a daily basis.

However, if LV knows Snape has switched sides (I think this is a real possibility), he could be feeding Snape wrong information about what he is doing.

Either way, LV has got to be suspicious of Snape.
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