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Harry the Gryffindor heir

Postby wizard_gurl4ev » Friday 30 January 2004 1:53:45am

*This isn't a rumor it's more a theory. I think the reson Voldemort wanted to kill Harry and James is because they are Gryffindor heir.
1. They lived in Godic Hollow before they died
2. Voldemort said that he wouldn't have kille Lily if she would have move out of the way (she is married to James, but not blood related)
3. When Harry found the right wand, red and yellow sparks came out of the wand
4. He pulled Godric's sward out of the sorting hat.
5. He was sorted into Griffyndor (duh) - Ella

I got this here: http://www.geocities.com/jenny_s_12/ [/url]

What do u think???? :-?

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Postby SiriuslyIrish » Friday 30 January 2004 3:40:10am

Actually, I really, really, really believe that Harry is the heir of Gryffindor. That was in The Ultimate Unofficial Guide to the Mysteries of Harry Potter, good book, long name, and they had all those clues. I totally agree.
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Postby hagrid_fang » Friday 30 January 2004 3:51:06am

Definately! no question about it! Harry IS gryffindors heir.
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Postby hagrid_fang » Sunday 1 February 2004 10:04:29pm

Although still thinking about CoS, Harry has traits of Slytherin in him that were passed to him through Voldies attack! maybe both?? :???:
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Postby Won Wheezy » Sunday 1 February 2004 10:17:11pm

Yeah, maybe old Godric had a thing going with Salazar! :lol: :razz: :grin:
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Postby Sacred Guardian » Tuesday 3 February 2004 3:48:34am

no, harry cannot be the heir to slytherin, or else he would have been able to control the basalisk, and he obviously couldn't , and besides, it's lineage, not backfired curse that passes a bloodline
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Postby hagrid_fang » Friday 13 February 2004 3:41:31pm

i'm not suggesting that harry is slytherins heir, cos we know he is not. Voldie is the last in that bloodline, he said so himself, but harry DOES have traits of slytherin within him. can this go any deeper?? i don't know, it's something worth thinking about!
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Postby Sacred Guardian » Friday 13 February 2004 4:38:01pm

then only reason he has the traits is because of volemort's curse, it's nothing beyond that, i don't think it will affect him much, other that the connection with voldemort, and once he kills him, the traits will go away
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Postby furnacedevil247 » Sunday 15 February 2004 8:29:40am

makes a lotta sense, dont it? my only prop with this whole thing was that we are forgetting about NEVILLE. i know that sounded stupid, but when it comes to miss rowling, who knows?
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Postby hagrid_fang » Sunday 15 February 2004 3:12:33pm

furnacedevil has a valid point! ms rowling has put in lots of red herrings! It could go in any direction really!!
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Postby Nobby » Monday 16 February 2004 5:49:41pm

Personally i dont think that Harry is Gryffindors heir! thats too obvious. Afterall this is ms Rowling herself.
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Postby hagrid_fang » Tuesday 17 February 2004 3:27:42am

In some ways i really do believe that harry IS gryffindors heir, but i'm still not 100% convinced for some reason and i don't know why that is...
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Postby darkcloak » Tuesday 17 February 2004 3:51:01pm

hagrid_fang wrote:In some ways i really do believe that harry IS gryffindors heir, but i'm still not 100% convinced for some reason and i don't know why that is...


Yes, I know what you mean.

I find it strange that Dumbledore only says that 'Harry belongs in Gryffindor' because he pulls out the sword in CoS. Why not tell him he is the heir, if not then, then why not by Book 5? Dumbledore has laid enough gloom and doom on Harry you'd think he'd want to tell him in order to give him some confidence! But then again perhaps DD doesn't know either.

Another point is that the sorting hat could have placed him in Slytherin. Why would it even consider this if Harry was Gryffindor's heir? I realise some superficial traits of Voldie were left on him, but are they that powerful?

Unless (as some suggest) he could be both Gryffindor and Slytherin's heir? Or maybe Ravenclaws and Hufflepuffs too! :eek:

'One Harry to rule them all!! ' :grin:
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Postby Nobby » Tuesday 17 February 2004 6:06:53pm

"One Harry to find them and in the darkness bind them" - soz got carried away! :D

if harry is gryffindors heir surely that makes james an heir too! cos lily was muggleborn, harry's blood of the heir musta come from james. surely he would've known if he was an heir to
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Postby Athena Appleton » Tuesday 17 February 2004 7:53:05pm

darkcloak wrote:I find it strange that Dumbledore only says that 'Harry belongs in Gryffindor' because he pulls out the sword in CoS. Why not tell him he is the heir, if not then, then why not by Book 5? Dumbledore has laid enough gloom and doom on Harry you'd think he'd want to tell him in order to give him some confidence! But then again perhaps DD doesn't know either.


There are so many things, looking back into the books, that you could say "why wouldn't she have said it then..." and it turns out to be true. Dumbledore could have his reasons for not telling Harry, if indeed Harry is Gryffendor's heir (which I personally think he is) and if indeed Dumbledore knows (which I personally think he does.) Never let the "she would of told us...." become a trap. :grin:

darkcloak wrote:Unless (as some suggest) he could be both Gryffindor and Slytherin's heir?


J.K. Rowling has said in an interview that she likes Dumbledore because she can tell the truth using him and Hermione, and you don't question it. Dumbledore doesn't always tell all he knows, but he almost never lies. I don't think this is one of those instances he would have lied. He said himself that Tom Riddle (Voldemort) was the last remaining heir of Slytherin.

nobby wrote:if harry is gryffindors heir surely that makes james an heir too! cos lily was muggleborn, harry's blood of the heir musta come from james. surely he would've known if he was an heir to


Very few people really believe that Lily was muggleborn. Most people who theorize the HP books realize that there's something "interesting" about Lily's parentage. They are most likely magical or squibs.

Gryffindor was a long time ago. I could be a decendant of Christopher Columbus, but so many generations have passed, I wouldn't know it.

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