Snape the Vampire

[Athena Appleton]

I don't remember the bat references you're talking about. I do think there will be a vampire somewhere in the story, because it's mentioned... often.

When I'm saying vampire, though, y'all, I'm not talking about a halloweeny guy who wears a red-satin-lined black cloak and says "I vant to suck your blode". I'm talking about a "realistic" kind of thing. I mean, who would have thought a werewolf would be a good, gentle guy with a sense of humor?

I asked my husband about this (he's the resident vampire expert in our house, not me) and he said that it depends on what myth, lore, or story you're talking about. He said that in some stories, vampires are almost like everyone else, except they drink blood.

I don't think we would have the vampire references in the books for nothing. If Snape turns out to be (just another) unregistered animagus, I'm going to laugh, because I feel like the whole unregistered animagus storyline is getting seriously overplayed.

Try going back and rereading the books with the idea that Snape could be a vampire. You'll see what I'm talking about. There's vampire references all over the place.

[Mistress Siana]

Hm, I think he cannot be a vampire. If you have a look at fantastic beasts and where you can find them (or however it is called), there is an important difference between werewolves and vampires: Werewolves are seen as humans with some kind of handycap, whereas vampire are considered beasts and therefore may not carry wands.

That leaves the half-vampire...but how can you be a half-vampire? If you stick to the common view of vampires at least halfway, they are dead. Well, living dead, but still they would be unable to have offsprings...
Anyway, Snape is already so many things...an ex-death eater, a spy, a postions master, enemy of Harry's father, son of an abusive father...I think it would be too much. I mean, making him a bloodthirsty beast would be a very easy way to explain much of his behaviour, and that simply wouldn't be JKR's style.

An animagus...I think if he's ever found out about the marauders being animagi, he would've been eager to become one himself.

[Athena Appleton]

[quote=Mistress Siana said]Hm, I think he cannot be a vampire. If you have a look at fantastic beasts and where you can find them (or however it is called), there is an important difference between werewolves and vampires: Werewolves are seen as humans with some kind of handycap, whereas vampire are considered beasts and therefore may not carry wands.

That leaves the half-vampire...but how can you be a half-vampire? If you stick to the common view of vampires at least halfway, they are dead. Well, living dead, but still they would be unable to have offsprings...
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AHA!!!! *kisses you on the cheek* FINALLY an educated argument as to why Snape wouldn't be a vampire!!!

Like I said before, I don't really think he is, I thought it was an interesting theory when I read it before. I do think someone will turn out to be (why have the vampire references) but it could very well be someone else. Or it could be she is sending us fishing (red herrings).

btw, I don't have Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, so that's why I didn't know what J.K. Rowling had to say about the subject.

[Mistress Siana]

It took me very long to finally stumble over that argument! I really wouldn't have liked it if Snape had been revealed as a vampire...I don't know...unlike lupin, it would make snape less interesting, I think.

[Athena Appleton]

exactly, like, he actually had a non-physical reason for being as horribly horrible as he is.

[darkcloak]

I don't think we would have the vampire references in the books for nothing.

If they are deemed "beasts" as Mistress Siana uncovered, then it would make sense for them to be a part of Voldermort's army.

Expect windows to be boarded up at Hogwarts to keep all those bats out

[Nobby]

I don't think we would have the vampire references in the books for nothing

i agree with athena on this one! although i feel that snape isn't a vampire, JK would not 'leave breadcrums' of the vampire kind for no reason. in CoS Lockheart has a book named 'Voyages with Vampires'. this is not just a coincidence as 'Wandering with Werewolves' was a convient title to! there are no coincidences with JK

[Jotomicron]

okay... I don't really think snape is a vampire, just started this thread for the fun of it. if he is, no, i don't think he turns into a bat, i think technically that would count as being an animagus and I don't think he is an unregistered animagus....

I just wnat to make sure I don't believe Snape is a vampire. However, Athena, what about Lupin? He is not a registered animagus (or ermione would know it) and he transforms into a wolf...

[Athena Appleton]

I just wnat to make sure I don't believe Snape is a vampire. However, Athena, what about Lupin? He is not a registered animagus (or ermione would know it) and he transforms into a wolf...

but... but.... *blows a huge raspberry at Joto*



okay, you got me... still don't think Snape turns into a bat, though...

[Tuima]

OK, sorry to jump way back, but L'Oeil de Ra -- please tell me the French's name for Snape! Schnazzy!
Anyhoo... I dunno about Snape being a vampire. It just doesn't seem right. But Rowling could definitely pull it off, and it explains a lot. BTW, I think that this is one of the coolest theories I've read. There will definitely be vampires in 6 &7, in my opinion.

[Aberforth]

Snape could be part-vampire.

The comic character Blade (who is a vampire hunter) is actually part-vampire. His mother was bitten whilst pregnant, so some of the vampire characteristics got passed onto him. This could work for Snape too.

Also, Blade took a serum to stop him needing to drink blood.
In An Interview With A Vampire, Brad Pitt goes for long periods without drinking blood, and sometimes resorts to drinking blood from rats (.....ah I can see Wormtail's ne Scabbers' death practically writing itself).

Blade was a "day walker", ie he could bear sunlight.

These facts would make it possible for Snape to be part vampire.


Referring to Remus being registered as an animagus - he isn't one. He's a warewolf and therefore not considered propoerly human and cannot change his form at will to that of an animal. James and Sirius could do it when they liked.

[Mistress Siana]

Okay, the part-vampire theory is plausible, but I still don't think he is one...(by the way, if Blade's mother was bitten, I don't think she would have been able to carry out a child, if you look at it with some logic...not a too big fan of blade).
There's already so much about Snape...JKR has just started to give him some background, we still don't know why he betrayed the DEs, why DD still trusts him, and we know about his abusive father...that vampire thingy in between would be way too much...it just wouldn't fit.

@Tuima: I'm not french, but I think his french name's Severus Rogue...

[Athena Appleton]

Yeah, when I told my husband about this theory, he referred to Blade, and I forgot about it until just now. That's more the line I think she would take with it... where he was "almost" though not entirely, normal...

[darkcloak]

Is there any evidence that Snape could be Nagini (Voldie's familiar)?

[Nobby]

don't think so it could be possible though