Sirius's sorting

[Mistress Siana]

I also think that Black would have been an exception you can impossibly just forget...he was known as one of the most famous DEs, the one that betrayed the potters. He was in one league with the Lestranges, if not even above them...

[Meg Boyd]

I read in an interview of JKR, that one question that was asked was what house was James and Lily in. JKR answered Gryffindor. This would follow as to why would a gryffindor befriend a slytherin???? That doesn't happen often, does it???? Not that is impossible, mind you. And, not to mention that Sirus was the "black sheep" of the family, not exactly glorifying in the dark arts etc...

[Herminny]

I think they were all in Gryffindor

Hagrid..well lets face it he is not the type of guy that over annalyses stuff. He was never a prize pupil. What I'm saying is maybe it was a generallisation. I'm sure he didn't go through every year book and find out who went bad. when he said that he couldn't really say yeah all the bad guys were in slytherin, except the guy who let Voldy kill your parents. It might have also sliped his mind (less likely) but at the time he was trying to kinda warn Harry not to get friends with slytherins (jin case they betray him...like James was betrayed)

They were best friends (James and Sirius) and they snuck out together (under the invisability coat) these two things make me believe that they were in same house.

Also Sirius said when DD gave out prefect badges that out of the choice of them (because there is only one male prefect per house) he gave it to lupin. "Lupin was the good boy, he got the badge" THE badge not A badge which means only one of the group could get the badge because the were ALL in Gryffindor.

There is no doubt that James was in Gryffindor

[Athena Appleton]

The Marauders were inseperable... In book 5, Hermione and Harry say that it would look suspicious for people from the different houses to interact too much... If Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs were in seperate houses, they wouldn't have been inseperable. They would have different classes, different common rooms, and cheered different Quidditch teams...

[Aberforth]

Mrs Black blastexd Sirius of the family tree because he didn't go in for the pure-blood nonsense. Surely because of this he wouldn't have been sorted into Slytherin.

Additionally, the quote about all bad witches/wizards being in Slytherin - JK wrote that in the first book, not knowing how it would take off and surely not having the arrogance to believe that from that little book she could build an empire and release 7 books. I think she probably thought it would be nice to do 7 but never believed it possible until after writing PS.

[Athena Appleton]

Just a quick note... JKR had been planning the Harry Potter books for about 15 years (i think i got that from the interview on the second disc of Chamber of Secrets, US version). All her little clues throughout the books are there for a reason because she fully intended to write all 7 books. From interviews I've seen or heard about, she's got notebooks and notebooks of additional Harry Potter stuff... little facts and stuff, and she uses those as references when she writes to avoid contradicting herself.

[hagrid_fang]

Well we assume that snape was a slytherin too don't we? if sirius and james were slytehrins you'd think that they would have made an effort to be friends with snape! i really don't believe that sirius was a slytherin and was a gryffindor! the heritage didn't matter you know the whole pure blood thing! and Sirius being a death eater! i don't think he had the dark mark on his arm did he?

[Aberforth]

James Potter was definitely in Gryffindor. This is stated in OotP, chapter 31 "OWLS", when Ron messes his hair up when talking about his triumphant game of quidditch, and Harry compares him with another gryffindor quidditch player who messed his hair (ie James, having seen him doing this in the pensieve used by Snape).

Since the closest friendships the characters develop are pretty much all within their house and year group since the spend the most time with them and there is no mention of people from other houses being in the gryffindor common room, it is pretty safe to assume that Lupin, Pettigrew and Black were all in grffindor too.

[Aberforth]

The belief that James was in the gryffindor team would have been confirmed to Harry in book 1 when her saw the quidditch trophy with James Potter written on it as Seeker.

[Athena Appleton]

Fang: I guess we assume Snape was in Slytherin, but I seriously doubt he'd be head of a house that he didn't himself belong to... Alumni seem to continue supporting their houses, and hoping their children follow in their footsteps, much the same way alumni of a college would continue to support the college... The Mrs. Weasley Howler tells Ginny they're "so proud" when she makes Gryffindor... *shrug* Anyway...

Lily and James have been confirmed members of Gryffindor. Since the marauders were inseperable, and since Hermione worries in book 5 that lots of random socializing with other houses will look suspicious, I assume Lupin, Sirius, and Wormtail were also in Gryffindor (what a misplacement of Wormtail, though, huh?!?!) In some interview, it's confirmed that Hagrid is from Gryffindor.

[Jotomicron]

Do you think Wormtail was already a supporter of Voldemort in school?
I think he didn't want to say to Voldemort where the Potters were, but then he understood Voldemort was getting more powerful and joined him because he was afraid... but yeah, it was a misplacement, as he would have fought if he was really brave, as all gryffindors

[Aberforth]

I don't think Wormtail would have been in cahoots with Voldemort when he was at school.. He would hace been too interested in school life and trying to hang around with the cool kids. I'm not sure about how powerful Voldemort was at the time James and Sirius were at school. Maybe he was still operating under a certain amount of stealth at that time anyway.

Any thoughts on Voldemort's rise to power timeline?

[Athena Appleton]

Any thoughts on Voldemort's rise to power timeline?

According to Hagrid on the night he goes to the shack in the middle of the sea to get Harry, "this wizard, about twenty years ago now, started lookin fer followers". So, if Hagrid's word is to be trusted as fact, Voldemort was already powerful and was starting to try to find followers around nine or ten years before Harry was born, which would most likely be while James and Lily were in school (I posted a rather intricate timeline based on facts from this book in "matching up dates", which has been disproven, but still SHOULD be true, therefore, Aberforth, you have your true descrepancy! True or not, James and Lily would still be at Hogwarts when Voldemort started his rise to power, just questionable of how long)

I really don't think Wormtail was in with Voldemort in school that's not what I meant... I just meant that he wasn't brave, and according to just about everyone (the teachers in the Three Broomsticks, Sirius, Lupin, the Pensieve) he wasn't really ever brave (until the end, when he *supposedly* faught Sirius)... so he was "misplaced", I think...

[Jotomicron]

Yeah, he was misplaced...


PS: athena, do you want me do make the words 'matching up dates' on your post a real link to that thread?

[Athena Appleton]

yeah, i just always forget to do that... thank you