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Postby Writer » Sunday 7 March 2004 4:19:40pm

I'm still confused about that. is james a seeker?

cool link, fierce :D

Hmm even if it's possible to do spells without a wand it can't be too easy, or everyone'd be doing it!

Or maybe it's a case of older and more experienced/powerful wizards being able to do it. So maybe it's Harry growing more powerful... Oh I have no idea :-? Well they haven't learned about it in school yet anyway hehe
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Postby Amon Rê » Sunday 7 March 2004 4:42:33pm

I didn't say they were accurate. All I was saying, as in relating to other threads, such as the Susan Bones relations...is that maybe Rowling wanted something like that included...I'm not gullible enough to trust the movies more than the books. I'm also pretty sure that in one of the books, maybe Prisoner of Azkaban or Chamber of Secrets that someone does mention Jams playing, maybe not as a seeker, I'm looking for the page references.
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Postby Scellanis » Sunday 7 March 2004 10:08:37pm

James was a Chaser I beleive...
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Postby Nobby » Monday 8 March 2004 5:12:42pm

sorry to disagree but i think james was a seeker!

In OotP he seen playing with a snitch and was talkin about how he looks when he catches it i think. Also Jk has said in interviews that james also was a seeker
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Postby Amon Rê » Monday 8 March 2004 5:30:54pm

Good call Nobby about the playing with the snitch...I mean he could have gotten it from anywhere, but Wormtail was starring as if he were a god...so you know he had to have awesome reflexes :-D
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Postby Scellanis » Monday 8 March 2004 8:04:58pm

Well when we had the theories about the quidditch trophey in the movie everyone proved the movie wrong because J K Rowling gave an interview which said James played a chaser....I'm sure thats the way round it was...

and I doubt that only seekers are able to catch a snitch, I bet chasers and other players can...its just the seeker is the best at it....and it wouldnt take much to impress wormtail would it...can anyone imagine him being able to catch it.....

the point of a seeker is being able to see the snitch a long way and catch it during flight in the middle of a quidditch match no matter what the weather not just playing with it as you talk....
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Postby Scellanis » Monday 8 March 2004 8:31:11pm

Ta da!! I found it!!!

What position did James play on the Gryffindor Quidditch team? Was it seeker like Harry, or something different?
James was Chaser.

from http://www.scholastic.com/harrypotter/a ... cript2.htm

quite near the bottom...she quite clearly states that James potter is a Chaser.
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Postby Writer » Monday 8 March 2004 10:39:35pm

Oh cool! Now we know :)
Very confusing though
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Postby Amon Rê » Tuesday 9 March 2004 5:22:02am

Alright back to the topic....
So did we as a group ever decide if wandless magic was just a higher form of magic or that it was just to show power or what? Got lost for a minute there :-D
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Postby Alice I » Tuesday 9 March 2004 5:30:08am

I think wandless magic is something that all wizards and witches can do. They have weird or unexplained things happen while growing up and find out that they are wizards when they get a letter from Hogwarts. That is all of those from muggle families anyway. It's like Hagrid said to Harry his first year about did you ever make something happen when you were angry or scared, something you couldn't explain. ie: growing his hair back, ending up on the roof of the school kitchens, blowing up Aunt Marge. Doesn't that all qualify as wandless magic?
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Postby Amon Rê » Tuesday 9 March 2004 5:35:03am

Yeah, you might want to read the post from the beginning we did most of that already and then went off topic for a bit :-D
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Postby highsorcerer » Tuesday 9 March 2004 7:08:22am

I'd say some powerful magic can be done without a wand. Good examples are as follows:

Possession (Lord Voldemort, several times)
Broomstick Control (Quirrell / Voldemort, PS)
Animagi Transformation (McGonnagall, James Potter, Sirius Black, Peter Pettigrew, Rita Skeeter).
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Postby Amon Rê » Tuesday 9 March 2004 1:47:58pm

Definitely...I was thinking about the Animagi Transformation to...Rowling makes absolutely no reference to using a wand when they transform themselves, but when they transfor other objects they use a wand :-D
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Postby Scellanis » Tuesday 9 March 2004 9:45:20pm

Um...it was never stated whether Quirrel used a wand or not, all we know is that when Hermione saw the curse on the broom she looked to Snape first because they already had suspicions about him and he had his wand out muttering the counter curse, nobody ever checked to see if Quirrel had a wand...too busy with Snape....
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Postby Scellanis » Tuesday 9 March 2004 9:46:50pm

whoops....damn the no edit functions...I always forget to post the last line in my theory posts.....

should have said...or at least thats what I thought.....haven't checked but I'm sure the broom was just a curse done with a wand.....
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