Snape - Deatheater?

[Athena Appleton]

sorry, where's that conversation at? I dont' remember it. that could be a point...

[Alice I]

There is a point with Snape that has bothered me from book one all the way through.
When Snape was threatening Quirrel in book one why doesn't Voldemort know and have Snape killed?

I do believe that Snape is spying for the Order and that would require that he be undiscovered.

While answering a question in another section of the forum I think I have found an answer to this.

When Voldemort was telling his DE about meeting Quirrel he said:

"Oh, he seemed the very chance I had been dreaming of... for he was a teacher at Dumbledore's school... he was easy to bend to my will,,, he brought me back to this country, and after awhile I took possesion of his body to closely supervise him as he carried out my orders...."

So maybe when Snape was threatening Quirrel saying
"We will soon see where your loyalties lie" Voldie may not have actually possesed Quirrel yet.

Does this make sense?

[Ferrus]

It depends on the time-lines... I understood that Voldemort took possesion of Quirrel after the Gringotts break-in which sort of invalidates the whole thing... But if Voldemort possesed Quirrel after the "conversation" with Snape it all makes muych more sense...

[Athena Appleton]

Makes sense, but doesn't Harry feel the pricking of his scar at the Welcome feast, when Snape is looking at him (he thinks it's pricking because of Snape) but Quirrell's back is turned to him (it's really pricking because of Voldemort sticking out of the back of Quirrell's head)? I know it's in the movie, and I was thinking it was in the book, too...

Well, even though... Quirrell tries to kill Harry on the broomstick early on... so I would definately think that Voldemort is possessing him at that point, unless Quirrell himself had a problem with Harry...

I kind of got the idea that Quirrell was travelling and came across Voldemort during the summer before, and that's why he wears the turban all year (I don't think he would have done that otherwise.) But he had already gotton the post of DADA teacher... actually, are we positive Harry's first year at Hogwarts is Quirrell's first year of teaching at Hogwarts?

[Emma'I'm a real witch']

I kind of got the idea that Quirrell was travelling and came across Voldemort during the summer before, and that's why he wears the turban all year (I don't think he would have done that otherwise.) But he had already gotton the post of DADA teacher... actually, are we positive Harry's first year at Hogwarts is Quirrell's first year of teaching at Hogwarts?

I had a look in PS and Hagrid is introducing Harry to everyone in the Three Broomsticks they bump into Professor Quirrell. And there is the following quote
"Harry - 'Is he always that nervous?'"
"Hagrid - 'Oh yeah. Poor Bloke. Brilliant mind. He was fine while he was studying outta books but then he took a year off ter get some first-hand experience...They say he met vampires in the Black Forest and there was a nasty bit o' trouble with a hag - never been the same since"

I take this to mean he was already teaching at Hogwarts and took a year out in which he met LV and let him into his body. In which case this means LV was possessing Quirrell at the very start of term.

[Mistress Siana]

Athena,
I finally found the conversation you asked me for. In the British paperback version (hopefully), it's on page 649. Shortly after DD discovers Harry in his pensieve, he explains how the whole thing works and shows Harry a conversation between him and Snape. Snape says that the dark mark becomes clearer and clearer, Karkaroff's as well as his one, and while talking, he's staring at the ceiling.

[pandora315]

Snapes job for the order is to spy on VOldy, he says so himself. Snape and Harry are talking Snape says something like "its not your job to find out what the Dark Lord is up to" Harry says "No thats your job" and Snape says "yes thats my job" or something lie that. (correct me if I'm wrong I'm just going from memory).

About Quirrel- Quirrel runs across VOldy in the forest and VOldy persuades Quirrel to bring him to Hogwarts and eventually possesses(sp) him. Its possible that the Snape confrontation happened before quirrel was possesed. I mean just because Quirrel tries to kill Harry doesn't mean he didn't do it of his own accord on VOldy's orders.

I havn't decided if I think Snape is a death eater or not. I think he will let something slip during his spy act (Rather like he let "slip" that Lupin was a werewolf) the question is for whom and intentionally or not?

[Evil Wizard Petting Zoo]

I'm still not sure what to believe about Snape. I think if Voldemort wanted him killed (as he said in book 4) he would be dead by now. But Snape is safe while he is in Hogwarts with Dumbledore. So I dunno. I really want Snape to be a good guy! 8)

[Athena Appleton]

I think Snape is what he appears to be: a good guy who is not a nice guy. I think his motives are clearly wrong on some things, but in general, he's fighting against Voldemort, and is probably pretty ticked off that he's the one everyone wonders "is he really on our side?" when he's risking his life...

the world is full of those guys, and they show up especially in times of war. There are a lot of people who aren't nice, warm fuzzy people who are on the side of good...