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Postby Athena Appleton » Sunday 4 April 2004 7:53:56pm

Well, I don't really think that little 10-year-old Mark Evans is the person working hard to fool the ministry... it could be something as simple as maybe they think they have records of everyone and they don't (not really anyone's fault there except for the record-keepers). It could be something as complex as Mark's father realizes he's related to Lily and Harry, and went into hiding of some sort out of fear because he's related. Could be the Dursleys weren't the first people Dumbledore went to (there was about a 24-hour time frame that we don't know what happened between the night James and Lily died and the night Harry's dropped of at the Dursleys.) Maybe Mark's dad wants nothing to do with the magical world, and he had them unregistered to keep him from learning about magic. I mean, we don't know much of how the system works.
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Postby Dumbledores Master » Monday 19 April 2004 12:04:33pm

The mirror of Erised showed off Harrys grandparents so we would already know wouldn`t we
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Postby Athena Appleton » Monday 19 April 2004 4:15:13pm

okay, I think I figured it out... do you read just the first post and then post, or do you read through the thread and then reply to what's been said since the first post?
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Postby Dumbledores Master » Monday 19 April 2004 8:10:57pm

I read first post then post. I don`t like going off subject.
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Postby Athena Appleton » Tuesday 20 April 2004 7:34:36pm

:lol: okay... thing is, if there's a conversation going in a thread, you could either be completely glazing over some excellent points someone else has made, or (like what's happened a few times) just be REALLY confusing. :grin:
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Postby Dumbledores Master » Tuesday 20 April 2004 8:17:05pm

Sorry :oops:
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Postby Athena Appleton » Tuesday 20 April 2004 8:28:37pm

:lol: not a problem... just got confused, that's all

and now we are off-subject... :oops: my bad
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Postby pallas artemis » Monday 26 April 2004 8:49:50pm

To get back on subject with Harry's relatives, I don't think a blood connection with Voldemort is out of the question. A teenage Voldemort is the only one who has said that his mother died and left him at an orphanage. At sixteen he may have either believed this to be true or was lying to Harry (which is something we know he likes to do).
What if his (Voldemorts) mother didn't die but simply left him. She could have went off and started a new life, possibly one in which she had two daughters, Petunia and Lilly.
I don't think that all of Harry's family were muggles. If so why would Lilly and Petunia's parents been so proud of Lilly, my opinion is that Petunia is a squib.
Lilly does get called a mudblood so perhaps her father is a muggle but one less close minded as Tom Riddle, Voldemort's dad.
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Postby Athena Appleton » Monday 26 April 2004 10:10:37pm

I would imagine that once Dumbledore realized who Tom Riddle was, and that he was becoming or had become Voldemort, he would have looked into the matter of possible relatives, possible brothers and sisters, are his parents really dead, etc. Dumbledore tells Harry with complete confidence that Riddle was the last heir of Slytherin. Being Headmaster of the school, I'd imagine he'd want to make sure that Chamber would NEVER be opened again, and one way to do that would be to make sure there were really no more heirs out there...
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Postby pallas artemis » Tuesday 27 April 2004 1:11:07am

Dumbledoor says he was the last. But does that mean last as in the last ever or the previous?[/quote]
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Postby Athena Appleton » Tuesday 27 April 2004 3:38:31am

In CoS, page 332 of the US paperback version, Dumbledore says:

You can speak Parseltongue, Harry... because Lord Voldemort - who is the last remaining ancestor of Salazar Slytherin - can speak Parseltongue


I don't think there's a lot of arguing that point... Dumbledore believes very strongly, at least, that Voldy is the very last of the Slytherins.
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Postby Ferrus » Tuesday 27 April 2004 9:00:25pm

My question is simply this: Why does everyone seem to think that Mark´s parents are magical and therefore included in the registry? Its perfectly possible that Mark´s parents are both Squibs, both Muggles (my bet) or a Squib-Muggle pair. For all of these ways there would be strange reason for them not to be on the registry.
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Postby Athena Appleton » Wednesday 28 April 2004 1:55:21am

actually, I don't know about his parents being magical... I mean, I think I always assumed that his father is whatever petunia is (not sure if I think she's a squib or a muggle) and the mom would be non-magical...

the question about the registry really refers to Mark himself... if he turns out to be magical, he should be on that registry from the time he was born, according to what Rowling has said in other interviews and chats. so either mark isn't magical, which for some reason I doubt that rowling would bring in a ten-year-old with the same last name as Harry's mom and not have him head to Hogwarts the next year, or the registry is not up to par.
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Postby Alice I » Wednesday 28 April 2004 5:53:49am

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Fudge doesn't pay attention to the registry.
He is the one who said Harry was the only wizard registered in the area and
He was so intently focused on getting Harry discredited that it would be completely in character for Fudge to simply make a sweeping statement that he did not bother to verify to push this thing along.
He tried to ram rod this hearing through,
He changed the times with out properly notifying DD or Harry,
He tried to have Figgy's testimony struck to move things along,

Boy I'm telling you if JKR really want's to please her fans then she should definatly make Fudge leave office by way of the morgue.
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Postby pallas artemis » Wednesday 28 April 2004 9:32:49pm

I don't know as her goal IS pleasing her fans. :) She seems pretty sure of how she wants the stories to go and at this point I think she probably feels farely confident that we'll read whatever story she wants to write for the last two books. :cry: Killing Harry wouldn't please the fans but she definately hasn't ruled it out for us.
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