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Postby Neo » Tuesday 29 April 2003 4:51:25am

The faithful servant at Hogwarts is definitely Barty Crouch Jr, because Voldemorts says that he heped him get HP (and as far as we know Snape didn't do that).
Also when Harry returns and "Moody" takes him to the office, when DD arrives he went wiht Minerva and Severus, so there is no way for Snape to return from the circle of Death Eaters to Hogwarts in that little time.
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Postby Mistress Siana » Tuesday 29 April 2003 8:31:58pm

Okay, we know they cannot apparate in and outside Hogwarts, but how far outside? The spell is cast merely to protect the students inside the walls of the castle...he could have apparated just outside the grounds of hogwarts and entered then.
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Postby Neo » Wednesday 30 April 2003 4:38:17am

But Hogwarts is pretty big, so I do not know if he can run so fast from the entrance to the castle, while Moody takes Harry in. (Maybe Row can answer that, is a good question, how much time takes to go from the entrance to the castle walking)
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Postby Holly Golightly » Wednesday 30 April 2003 6:06:06am

But remember, there was enough time for Moody with one real leg/one fake, to drag Harry, who was mainly out of it, up to his office. I think that Snape, who is in relatively good condition, would have been able to cover alot more distance in the time it took those two to get up to the office...
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Postby Neo » Thursday 1 May 2003 5:57:57am

Well, that could be.
But when they were in the cementery, wouldn't Harry recognize Snape?
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Postby Mistress Siana » Thursday 1 May 2003 10:54:31pm

As far as I know, the DEs all wear masks. So Harry wouldn't have recognized him.
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Postby Neo » Friday 2 May 2003 4:40:57am

Yes I know, but even like that he could have recognize Snape's figure, or at least ha e the doubt if it was him.
And if Vldemort knows Snape is a spy, then he wouldn't go to the meeting, would he?
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Postby Mistress Siana » Friday 2 May 2003 4:21:46pm

Imagine you were being faced with the guy that killed your parents and that, btw, would do anyting to kill you as cruelly as possible. Would you, then, recognize you least favourite teacher if you met him in a cemetary, wearing a black cape and a mask between about fifty other people who look exactly the same? :???:

And if Vldemort knows Snape is a spy, then he wouldn't go to the meeting, would he?


That depends...You may call me crazy, but I still don't believe that Snape has completely left Voldemort's rows. There
are too many things that don't fit.
I.g, the Lucius/Snape connection. (And I really do believe that Lucius must at least suspect something...and if it wasn't Karkaroff that told him, there's still the big possibility that someone from the ministry
has told him...you know the great power and influence the Malfoys have)
So why does he still treat Snape like a friend?
And if the 'Serpensortia' theory was true, it could be explained this way, because two things eventually led to Harry's confrontation with Voldemort that, without the unpredictable appearance of Fawkes, would most certainly have resulted in Harry's death:
1. The 'mysterious' appearance of the diary that Lucius passed on to Ginny Weasley and
2.Harry being revealed as a Parseltongue.
Otherwise, noone would have ever expected the voices Harry heard to be a snake. I don't believe it was pure accident that Snape, of all, helped Malfoy (and thus eventually Voldemort) to get Harry almost killed.
Furthermore, as we've discussed in this forum, it could as far as the timeline is concerned be possible that Snape attended the DEs' meeting.
And what about the Lestranges, the couple that were friends of Snape's during their time in Hogwarts and that tortured the Longbottoms AFTER Vs fall? Snape must have known they were DEs, so why didn't he give their names away?

The only thing that doesn't fit is the way Snape treated Quirrel...but maybe the debt a wizard has if another wizard saves his life is greater than we think-after all, it was a similar thing that decieved Voldemort.
Or possibly, Snape rejoined the ranks of Voldemort after book 1...maybe Voldie, after realizing that Snape used to betray him, found something to blackmail him...
(now, Sevy, be a good boy or I'll kill ya mommy)
Okay, I know, I know, that's REALLY far fetched now, but hey, it's still possible! At least if would make a good fan fiction (maybe I should write one instead of posting crazy threads :) )
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Postby Neo » Saturday 3 May 2003 7:15:58am

lol, that would be a good idea (I would like to read that fan fic)

But if there is the slightests chance of SS returning to Voldemort's side then I think there is no way for DD to trust him. But still it, is a possibility.
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Postby Mistress Siana » Saturday 3 May 2003 2:26:14pm

Maybe I really should think about a fan fic...



But if there is the slightests chance of SS returning to Voldemort's side then I think there is no way for DD to trust him. But still it, is a possibility.


he trusted Quirrell, didn't he?
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Postby Neo » Sunday 4 May 2003 2:17:28am

Well yeah, but there were different situations, Quirrel wasn't a DE when DD started to trust him and SS was, so DD should keep an eye in Severus to see what he is up to, no?
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Postby Mistress Siana » Monday 5 May 2003 9:29:58am

right, he should, but DD has been trusting Snape for more than a decade, so maybe he thinks keepi8ng an eye on him isn't necessary anymore
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Postby Holly Golightly » Monday 5 May 2003 3:30:13pm

Well, the strange thing is, since DD's trusting in peple hasnt' proven wrong yet, we have just seemed to assume that if DD trusts someone, he must be good. Who is to say that his trust isn't misplaces?
After all, he trusted Quirell too, didnt' he?
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Postby Mistress Siana » Monday 5 May 2003 8:54:52pm

That's exactly what I think...
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Postby Neo » Tuesday 6 May 2003 4:33:52am

well but I think that Snape is clever enough to know that changing from side very often is too risky, and changing once is okay, but a second seems too much for me.
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