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Here's a thought

Postby Lone_Buck » Monday 12 April 2004 3:29:36pm

I think that DD doesn't want to give snape the job, because snape doesn't treat the kids equally. Look at potions, he constantly threatens to make Harry or Ron or Neville drink their potions when they've obviously been screwed up. He can find a way to justify that and say it's part of his curriculum. Now put him in a job where he can hex students and just say try to get outta that, obviously Harry and Neville will be hexed at least once per class. It would be like letting Filch beat the students.
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Postby Groo » Monday 12 April 2004 7:08:30pm

naw i dont think that is a strong enough reason

point taken but DD allowed Umbridge to take the DADA post instead!! Snape would hex students but Umbridge makes them write in their own blood!!!! there is no comparison as to who is more horrible

if DD allowed a Ministry official to take the post and not a member of the Order , then he surely has a big reason for that
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Postby Emma'I'm a real witch' » Monday 12 April 2004 9:18:00pm

Hi Groo!! :welcome:

If you remember DD didn't allow Umbridge to take the job he was forced to by the MoM because he couldn't find a replacement to take the job. The was the first educational decree.
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Postby paintballdecoy » Monday 12 April 2004 11:30:23pm

Well, maybe Snape is just better at Potions then Defense Against the Dark Arts so Dumbledore just keeps him there.
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Re: Here's a thought

Postby Athena Appleton » Tuesday 13 April 2004 4:15:39am

Untouchable8605 wrote:I think that DD doesn't want to give snape the job, because snape doesn't treat the kids equally. Look at potions, he constantly threatens to make Harry or Ron or Neville drink their potions when they've obviously been screwed up. He can find a way to justify that and say it's part of his curriculum. Now put him in a job where he can hex students and just say try to get outta that, obviously Harry and Neville will be hexed at least once per class. It would be like letting Filch beat the students.


if this were the reason, I'd be writing to Dumbledore getting on to him for having a teacher who would want to harm students, regardless of what they taught. If Dumbledore really had a problem with Snape regarding his meanness, he wouldn't allow him to teach, period... not try to find a nice, safe class for him to teach where he could only poison students, instead of hexing them... :lol:
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Postby AngelicS_89 » Tuesday 13 April 2004 12:02:54pm

This is what I think.It's very hard to be good at potions,and DD knows that Snape is inreplaceble there,and for DADA lessons there is always someone from the Order or something,and I have to back up Athena's theory of Hermione replacing Snape and Snape becoming DADA teacher...But still I don't see where it says that Snape is better than all others in DADA.I mean maybe Lupin is better...
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Postby Dumbledores Master » Wednesday 14 April 2004 1:32:29pm

DD doesnt trust Snape to teach them properly because then he could weaken harry against any attack Voldemort mounts
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Postby Athena Appleton » Wednesday 14 April 2004 11:55:29pm

that logic, though, would undermine the trust that Dumbledore has had for Snape since the beginning.
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Postby Evil Wizard Petting Zoo » Wednesday 14 April 2004 11:59:39pm

DM, you must be a Snape-is-a-bad-guy-supporter. :grin: Sorry, I can't agree with you, DD has always said he trusts Snape.
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Postby Nobby » Thursday 15 April 2004 10:38:53am

Athena Appleton wrote:that logic, though, would undermine the trust that Dumbledore has had for Snape since the beginning


i totally agree! i don't think Dumbledore is wrong on the snape issue. he's rarely wrong anyway :grin:
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Postby Groo » Saturday 17 April 2004 9:14:28pm

Emma, you said that DD was forced to take Umbridge as there was no replacement. but he had one, snape!! anyone would have accepted the now vacant Potions position as it has no problem. thats why i reiterate, his reason must have been very deep, bad enough to allow Umbridge.

Fluffy, surely there is someone or the other around who is good at potions. there are guys getting "O" grade in their Owls so there isnt a dearth of talent.
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Postby Dumbledores Master » Sunday 18 April 2004 6:34:54pm

Harry as DADA teacher? after all he is the DA teacher and he does well there. I dont think he will teach his own year and 7th year but maybe he will teach the others?
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Postby Evil Wizard Petting Zoo » Monday 19 April 2004 2:53:27am

Groo wrote:
his reason must have been very deep, bad enough to allow Umbridge.
I totally agree with that! I don't think its just because Snape is better at potions and there is no one to take the potions position. Athena made the parallell about not leaving a recovering alcoholic alone in the house with a 6pack and that definately has its merits, but I think there could also be something deeper.
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Postby pallas artemis » Tuesday 27 April 2004 12:20:58am

I'm simply not convinced that Snape even wants the DADA position!

No one, except students, has ever said anything about it. Neither DD nor Snape have ever said or hinted at it. When Snape teaches the class for Lupin he doesn't even seem that enthusiastic for being there.

The only evidence the kids have that he wants the job is that he has hated all of the teachers in the post. Quirrel was the bad guy, Snape knew it and was trying to stop him. Lockhart was a putz. Lupin was a good guy but Snape has hated him since school. Moody wasn't liked by Snape because Snape thought Moody was trying to frame him or something. and then Umbridge was pure evil, everyone hated her. :P
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Postby Alice I » Tuesday 27 April 2004 12:27:57am

pallas artemis wrote:I'm simply not convinced that Snape even wants the DADA position!

No one, except students, has ever said anything about it. Neither DD nor Snape have ever said or hinted at it. When Snape teaches the class for Lupin he doesn't even seem that enthusiastic for being there.

The only evidence the kids have that he wants the job is that he has hated all of the teachers in the post. Quirrel was the bad guy, Snape knew it and was trying to stop him. Lockhart was a putz. Lupin was a good guy but Snape has hated him since school. Moody wasn't liked by Snape because Snape thought Moody was trying to frame him or something. and then Umbridge was pure evil, everyone hated her. :P


Actually when Umbridge reviewed Snape's class she asked him about it and he definatly wanted the job because she pointed out that he applied for it repeatly and was turned down repeatly which clearly irritated him based on his response to Umbridge's questioning about it.
(Whew now that is a runon sentance)
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